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It's hard to know who or what to believe when it comes to the auto industry eventually going all-electric.

Lots of other media outlets, political pundits and EV detractors alike will say that EV sales have completely nose-dives, and the whole attempt at a zero-emission transition was a waste of time. Others say that EV sales are better than ever; a fact backed up with data. A recent study from J.D Power affirms the latter rather than the former—EV sales are definitely up. But interest in, and adoption of, the technology are both slower than expected.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lower the prices and I’ll buy one right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lower the prices and make an ev that doesn't have spyware and I'm sold. Well and repairable parts...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking about waiting long enough that the 4G network gets phased out then buy an EV with a 4G modem that stays offline.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Lol that's a good point. Also I saw someone on YouTube make a literal faraday cage like device. Kinda crazy but gets the job done I suppose. I would just snip the thing and call it a day. But I don't have the car so I'm not sure what will break...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Re: the spyware.

Before you buy a new car, you could just check to see if the manufacturer will let you not activate first complementary years / months of the car’s cellular plan. Or you could buy a used car where the complimentary connectivity stuff already expired.

A lot of ICE and EV cars operate just fine without that subscription service. I wouldn’t be surprised if most people opt not to pay for it if they have CarPlay or Android Auto. The most compelling reason to active the cellular connection is for streaming apps and traffic, which you can get from your phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Buy an old ICE car. LS-swap or compact-engine swap it.

Modify with Fuel-Cells, CNG/LPG/BioGas and hybrid combustion-electric drivetrains.

Everything should be disconnected and only locally available on the CAN-bus.

All-EV is also an option, but I think that there might not be that many garages to do a full-EV conversion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

That's what eventually pushed me over. I was going to wait until my car needed to be replaced. When the Chevy bolt dropped thousands in price and then was being discontinued, I stopped waiting. People have to keep in mind that this is all heavily influenced by people's car replacement schedules. Most people can't afford to throw away years of value to buy immediately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

iMHO, we need to vote the GOP out Congress so the US can do what China is doing. Heavily subsidize the electrification transition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You mean cutting corners unsafe non-QA untested lithium batteries corrupt CCPPCC shoddy Cha-buDuo (差不多) bullshit ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Leasing is also a factor. The technology is changing fast (including range), so some people may not want to commit to owning a car that may be obsolete in 5 years.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago

We DO NOT , I REPEAT, WE DO NOT have sufficient Cobalt, Nickel, Lithium and other Rare-earth metals to be mined sustainably or even quantitatively. We NEED Giant Asteroids made of all of these elements and very very soon and very very quickly.

At most, ALL Developed Nations, US/Canada/Europe/Australia/NZ/Japan convert ALL vehicles to electric. We will run out of the necessary rare elements and metals and will need a sustainable way to recycle and reuse them with almost 0% negligible losses or we find those asteroids very very quick and pronto mine them.

Instead we need to sustainably grow and recycle local industries worldwide at a village level. Everyone gets all the technology and processes equally and sustain it locally with net-no-negative impact to the environment and their own lives.

Never going to happen while Ultra-Trans-National-Mega-Death-Corps are in charge of everything.