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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago

Italy's taking the picture

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Milei, Meloni, and Orban already ran by the cameraman.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

right? I was like... these guys are only aspiring to fascism, where's Orban?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they already are fascist, so no reason for them to run towards it, also they're included in the EU

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

also they're included in the EU

So's Germany, France, and ~~Latvia~~ Austria. AKA everyone pictured except the US.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

tbh I was just too lazy to insert every european flag, so I just put the EU one there and the countries I know some politicsl shit about

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

That's fair 😁

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Italy should actually be in the front

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

democratic is a bit of a stretch though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

For the USA, yes, but there are other countries too where democracy still kinda works

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (21 children)

I think calling everyone a fascist would just water down the impact of the fascist world just like the far right- or far left-wing words which nowadays are just used on more left/right parties but are kinda not close on their agenda like the 20th century parties were where these definitons came from.

But educate me if some of these countries have parties which really apply most general aspects of the fascism movement

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (6 children)

the guy running for chancellor in Austria (Herbert Kickl) is calling himself "Volkskanzler", guess who also called himself that? fucking Hitler. so no, I don't think I'm over reacting

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For people like me, that's "People's Chancellor".

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Wow dayum that definitely seem really sus.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Wanting to ban mosques, the quran and muslim clothing like niqabs sounds pretty fascist to me (that’s what the biggest political party in The Netherlands wants). Thinking the European far right (that is rapidly gaining grounds) isn’t fascist or fascist leaning is a wild take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Well it could be a fascist, but nevertheless on which category they are really in, it's really awful for doing this

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A few of the AFD highlights

Member of the Bundestag suggested to shoot every migrant at the border.

Another one claimed not every SS member was a bad person. Which lost them the support of French and Italian fascist.

Leader of the party in Thüringen, a history teacher, used a slogan of the SA.

There is many more...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Scary stuff. I live in central Berlin, and it's pretty relaxed here. Did the Mauerlauf last weekend and immediately when you cross the Brandenburg border to some of these villages, they're full of AfD advertisement. Berlin is definitely the Portland of Germany :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You've won. Certified fascistmaxxers there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many are populist parties, with the feeling that fascism is just waiting behind a hidden corner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Not even slightly hidden

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Germany definitely counts. The AfD is above 20%, in some states they might even govern alone. They probably will be part of the next government after the next election and they definitely are fascist.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

An example, a Dutch minister for the biggest party (PVV, in my opinion (very close to being) a fascist party) was an active member on an internet forum called Stormfront which is known to be a forum for neo-nazis

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We are allowed by court to call members of the FPÖ Kellernazis (people who are secretly Nazis when drinking with their buddies under the cellar) the FPÖ will most likely be the strongest party after the next Nationalrats election on September 29th. They will have something between 30 to 35% which is pretty strong. They have actual plans in their program to overthrow governments via referendum of the public and other things. So yes, it fits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are expected to have between 25 and 30 percent*

And usually prognosises tend to value them higher than they end up, so I guess we can expect them to get around 25%. Plenty of space for other parties to form a coalition.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There is no careful use of language that can stop people from preferring hatred. Humans are machines for making the world worse, and they will continue to do so, and while they do it they will rationalise doing it, and while people get hurt (including themselves) they will blame the victims.

"It's not fascism!" they complain as minorities are scapegoated and children die. Just get used to the fact that anything that is pointed entirely towards harming people for fun and profit is going to attract a range of derogatory words, and maybe think about how to stop humans from hurting humans instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Humans are machines for making the world worse

This sounds like fatalistic capitalist/imperialist realism.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

This started with “the war on terror.” And then any time there was anything someone didn’t like, it was “terrorism.”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

if calling it what it is waters it down so be it

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

"Bolsonarismo" in Brazil has an uncanny resemblance to fascism

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Hardship most likely

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah but ours is "good fascism" 😆

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