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This intervention, a direction to the Canada Industrial Labour Relations Board (CILRB), requires the two railway companies and the union to enter into binding arbitration and requires workers to go back to work and restart the railway operations.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm so glad some unions aren't allowed to strike, especially when its for safer work conditions. Wouldn't possibly want those damn plebs to get enough sleep every day when they're operating a couple million tons of equipment!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Indeed. Workers exist in order to work. Why would workers want to strike, when instead they could be working? Good thing the government is stepping in to keep them in their place. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is going to arbitration, which seems like a funny way to resolve it but yeah.

[–] Croquette 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's going in forced arbitration. Big difference here.

If both parties agreed to do arbitration, it would be dandy.

But nowadays, the government is eager to shut down any strike with special laws sprinkled with bullshit, and fuck over the workers' right to strike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is that different than binding arbitration?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, it is binding, just neither of the parties agreed to send it to arbitration. Which I'd say is worse but arbitration always ends with an outcome that's shitty for both sides.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So what if they continue to refuse to work after that if the contract is bad? Police are going to force them to work? Isn't that slavery?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly I'm not 100% sure. For context I'm in a much smaller union for a different essential service. Decades ago we (not me personally, I was a kid) were legislated back to work and the arbitrator decided to slip in a binding arbitration clause to our contract. The point is, we aren't allowed to strike and from my understanding of an illegal strike there could be fines for the union, fines for the members striking, and possibly jail time for union leadership. Obviously they could likely fire everyone with cause, but that would be a terrible decision when they're already struggling with retention of qualified people. Everyone could decide to quit at the same time, it's not a strike if you aren't employed, but that won't really help anyone, especially if you have specialized skills. In this case you can't really just go get a job as a railway engineer somewhere else.

Maybe check back with me in 2026, depending if our relationship with management gets better or worse I might have some more relevant first hand experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Do we really need another lac megantic incident? This is how we get another lac megantic incident.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Cue special law in 3... 2... 1...

[–] 9488fcea02a9 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it possible for the govt to bring in a pro-labour arbitrator and award a shit ton of demands to the workers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's not really 3rd party then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Government as strike-breaking scabs, imagine that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Imagine if the unions just refused and were able to successfully demand everything they wanted.