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Hi, Mlem App Community!

We on the Mlem Team wanted to share some information regarding the progress on the development of Mlem, what we're working on, and where we see the project on July 1.

THE GOOD

For the next build, we're working on 5 major components:

  1. Main Feed - We are refining both Large and Compact post views, improving their functionality and adding a bit more spacing to compact mode so that clumsy/"fat-finger" tapping results in fewer mis-taps.
  2. SWIPE-TO-VOTE! - Yes, we have brought this feature to the main feed! Swipe right to vote (up/down) and left to reply/save. This is the only configuration right now, but we plan to add customization in a later build.
  3. Profile Tab - This one is taking a lot of work and time, as we want to get it right. We felt that Apollo's profile page is a bit... blah, so we wanted to make something... prettier. Featuring both your profile picture and your banner image, the profile page will be information-rich and engaging. It will also feature a quick and simple way to sort between Overview, Posts, Comments, and Saved items without diving into a context menu.
  4. Community View/Browsing - Another biggie, and one which takes a lot of work. We are adding a dedicated screen for browsing, subscribing, and favoriting communities (Local or All federated) and sorting by Local, All, and Subscribed. This functions similarly to the "All Subreddits" screen in Apollo.
  5. Accessibility! - Our accessibility expert has audited ALL of these pages and tabs to make them 100% compatible with iOS's VoiceOver and Screen Reader Accessibility features, so those with visual impairments can use Mlem without impediment. We're proud to say that the next build of Mlem will be fully a11y compliant, as will be all future builds! Mlem is an app for everyone!

Of course, in addition to these 5 major components, we've also been working on tons of bug fixes and performance improvements.

THE BAD

We (especially me) have been telling everyone that we're aiming for July 1 for our 1.0 app launch. That was very silly to say, as the Apple App Store review process is... nuts. To realistically hit that date, we'd have to submit the app now, and it's pretty far from ready. So, suffice to say, that's not going to happen. We are now making a revised projection that we will have a Gold Master (GM) for 1.0 ready for submission to the App Store on July 1 which will go public whenever Apple decides to approve it. That could be days or weeks after initial submission--we will all just have to wait and see. Development will continue during that time, but further updates/releases will be much quicker after the initial approval.

We (I) apologize for setting unrealistic expectations with the Mlem community in this regard. We (I) should have known better. Nonetheless, we've taken this bad news and are moving forward with a renewed fervor to get this app up to snuff for the rigorous (and somewhat bastardly) App Store review process. Releases will be limited for now to our 10k TestFlight beta testers, for whom we are extremely grateful!

THE TEAM

We continue to labor. Our team, which ballooned to about 20 devs and designers at one point, has constricted back to about 10 main contributors, with about 6-8 core contributors. Such is the nature of FOSS projects as people come and go as their lives permit. This is a completely volunteer project where people donate their free time. It's not a job. We actively recruit when we have shortages in manpower or project goals that require specialties our current team lacks. Remaining flexible is critical. The best thing about our team is that everyone seems to like each other, and works together very well. Working with this team is a pleasure!

Our team currently has representatives from all over the world. From the North American cities of Seattle, Boston, Ottowa, and NYC to rural Indiana and all the way to Europe's Scotland and Slovenia and even to Sydney, Australia, we have team members contributing their time and talent 24/7 from around the globe to make Mlem the best app we can-- for you!

THE FUTURE

As mentioned, we plan to hit 1.0 GM by July 1 to submit to the App Store, with approval forthcoming afterward. Until then we're working as hard and fast as circumstances allow to bring as many 1.0 features and bug fixes as we can to make that a reality. We obviously can't get to implementing every feature and squashing every bug, but we'll build in many features as is realistic for a 1.0 app and squash as many bugs as we can. Until then the beta app will be missing some features and harboring some bugs. It's just the nature of the beast.

Keep testing, stay excited, and check back here for updates and discussion about the Mlem App!

Cheers!

-- The Mlem App Team

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

UPDATE TEXT

Hi, Mlem App Community!

We on the Mlem Team wanted to share some information regarding the progress on the development of Mlem, what we're working on, and where we see the project on July 1.

THE GOOD

For the next build, we're working on 5 major components:

  1. Main Feed - We are refining both Large and Compact post views, improving their functionality and adding adding a bit more spacing to compact mode so that clumsy/"fat-finger" tapping results in fewer mis-taps.
  2. SWIPE-TO-VOTE! - Yes, we have brought this feature to the main feed! Swipe right to vote (up/down) and left to reply/save. This is the only configuration right now, but we plan to add customization in a later build.
  3. Profile Tab - This one is taking a lot of work and time, as we want to get it right. We felt that Apollo's profile page is a bit... blah, so we wanted to make something... prettier. Featuring both your profile picture and your banner image, the profile page will be information-rich and engaging. It will also feature a quick and simple way to sort between Overview, Posts, Comments, and Saved items without diving into a context menu.
  4. Community View/Browsing - Another biggie, and one which takes a lot of work. We are adding a dedicated screen for browsing, subscribing, and favoriting communities (Local or All federated) and sorting by Local, All, and Subscribed. This functions similarly to the "All Subreddits" screen in Apollo.
  5. Accessibility! - Our accessibility expert has audited ALL of these pages and tabs to make them 100% compatible with iOS's VoiceOver and Screen Reader Accessibility features, so those with visual impairments can use Mlem without impediment. We're proud to say that the next build of Mlem will be fully a11y compliant, as will be all future builds! Mlem is an app for everyone!

Of course, in addition to these 5 major components, we've also been working on tons of bug fixes and performance improvements.

THE BAD

We (especially me) have been telling everyone that we're aiming for July 1 for our 1.0 app launch. That was very silly to say, as Apple App Store review process is... nuts. To realistically hit that date, we'd have to submit the app now, and it's pretty far from ready. So, suffice to say, that's not going to happen. We are now making a revised projection that we will have a Gold Master (GM) for 1.0 ready for submission to the App Store on July 1 which will go public whenever Apple decides to approve it. That could be days or weeks after initial submission--we will all just have to wait and see. Development will continue during that time, but further updates/releases will be much quicker after the initial approval.

We (I) apologize for setting unrealistic expectations with the Mlem community in this regard. We (I) should have known better. Nonetheless, we've taken this bad news and are moving forward with a renewed fervor to get this app up to snuff for the rigorous (and somewhat bastardly) App Store review process. Releases will be limited for now to our 10k TestFlight beta testers, for whom we are extremely grateful!

THE TEAM

We continue to labor. Our team, which ballooned to about 20 devs and designers at one point, has constricted back to about 10 main contributors, with about 6-8 core contributors. Such is the nature of FOSS projects as people come and go as their lives permit. This is a completely volunteer project where people donate their free time. It's not a job. We actively recruit when we have shortages in manpower or project goals that require specialties our current team lacks. Remaining flexible is critical. The best thing about our team is that everyone seems to like each other, and works together very well. Working with this team is a pleasure!

Our team currently has representatives from all over the world. From the North American cities of Seattle, Boston, Ottowa, and NYC to rural Indiana and all the way to the Europe's Scotland and Slovenia, we have team members contributing their time and talent 24/7 from around the globe to make Mlem the best app we can-- for you!

THE FUTURE

As mentioned, we plan to hit 1.0 GM by July 1 to submit to the App Store, with approval forthcoming afterward. Until then we're working as hard and fast as circumstances allow to bring as many 1.0 features and bug fixes as we can to make that a reality. We obviously can't get to implementing every feature and squashing every bug, but we'll build in many features as is realistic for a 1.0 app and squash as many bugs as we can. Until then the beta app will be missing some features and harboring some bugs. It's just the nature of the beast.

Keep testing, stay excited, and check back here for updates and discussion about the Mlem App!

Cheers!

-- The Mlem App Team

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is anyone not seeing the post text? I just see the image of the app icon on Mlem.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

thats a current bug in the app, where posts with an image and text do not display the text. sorry. we're working on it. :(

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well at least it’s a known issue, no worries!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for working on thee app. Would you mind posting the update in the comments until the issue is resolved? I only know how to access Lemmy thru Mlem app. Thank you again for your efforts!

[–] relative_iterator 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great update! Can’t wait to try it out. Any chance the beta will open up with more spots?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple's TestFlight has a hard 10k limit. there's nothing we can do about that. sorry. We would if we could!

[–] relative_iterator 2 points 1 year ago

Ahh good to know. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can clone the git repo and build locally. Then you also have access to unofficial builds. I’ve already got the swiping gestures 😯💙

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys are killing it. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

you're welcome!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This has been so helpful in transitioning over to Lemmy, appreciate you lots for making this for us

Will be happy to buy a premium or whatever version of this when it drops on the App Store.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you so much! It was amazing to me that even the first day I tested out Lemmy, your app was already usable, what an accomplishment!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We're glad you like it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m so grateful for the amazing work you’re doing. Do you accept donations?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

As has been mentioned before, due to the communal (and multinational) nature of the development, there are some legal and tax concerns we haven't ironed out. While we'd like to, we have to figure that stuff out first. But thanks for your interest!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Awesome update! I’m excited for the swipe feature, that’s one feature that I really like.

[–] Ciari 3 points 1 year ago

No stress on the release date! You guys are doing your best to make this app something great and we all appreciate you for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the update. You all are doing fantastic work. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’m finding more stables builds each time, and great QOL improvements!

[–] thal3s 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys are doing fantastic! Using the app is a joy.

Is iPad support on the roadmap? It that something semi-decent Swift developers could assist with?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

an iPad-adapted view (with landscape support) is in the roadmap, but not for v1.0. we're focusing on getting basic features and a functional app for 1.0, and that's a LOT for the 1 month we've been working on it. Trust me, I WANT iPad support myself, but we have to be realistic. we're developing at a breakneck pace as it is. there's only so much we can realistically put in the app in that timeframe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can you maybe share the IPA, so that people who couldn't make it into the 10k from Testflight can sideload it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Very hype, well done guys!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have not yet discovered how to favorite communities. Can someone help me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When you're in a community, not on a post but the main page of the community, tap the three dots on the top right and you'll find a subscribe options

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well done everyone!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

making a revised projection that we will have a Gold Master (GM) for 1.0 ready for submission to the App Store on July 1 which will go public whenever Apple decides to approve it.

As someone just starting to poke at Lemmy, I still consider this good news. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you all for your hard work. The app will be worth the wait once it releases.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will there be kbin support? Would be nice!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not planned, and, unless kbin changes its API to be compatible with lemmy, that's likely never gonna happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@BrooklynMan

@ernest please see above in regards to app support

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof. Yeah, @ernest, please consider this. Not having a an app for kbin is a site killer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is currently an app in development for kbin: Artemis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Really hoping that something can happen here, I've been exploring both Lemmy and kbin and I definitely have come to prefer kbin pretty thoroughly - but Mlem is great and I'd love to keep using it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will there be text size options in the app? I’d like to be able to change the apps text size independently from my devices text size. Perhaps this is already in the works with the accessibility updates?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

eventually, yes. right now we're more focused on getting the app to work reliably and with all of it's primary functions first. Secondary functions such as independent text resizing is not a current priority, and you won't see it soon.

Perhaps this is already in the works with the accessibility updates?

People who have a low-vision need for larger text would have their entire system set to a larger text size, which Mlem would obey. Again, since independent text resizing is more of a personal choice rather than an accessibility need, it's not a current priority.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand your reasoning. I assumed that it is not trivial to implement. Of course getting the app to work reliably is a priority. I will just have to wait for this one ;)

Thank you for your work! I really enjoy using the app so far and I can’t wait for the 1.0 release, whenever it will be approved by Apple!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

you can do that today, if you add the text size item to your control center you can customize text per app. check out the slider at the bottom of the screen (I tried to add a screenshot but it failed.. my instance is a bit wonky today)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please make it available to ios15

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

never gonna happen