Yeah, they used paid models to do some weird shit who took the job and by hashtagging it, retweeting it and sharing it on Lemmy you just put the PaloAlto logo in front of millions more people...
Its almost like their plan worked perfectly
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Like when people say nationstates and corporations are astroturfing lemmy, I'm sure bruh, manipulating all those thousands of people will have dire geopolitical outcomes.
This is the same ignorant shit as "I don't mind surveillance, because i've got nothing to hide."
Marketing agencies and the likes actually like new platforms as they rarely have strict spam prevention mechanism and analytics to prevent astroturfing, multiple accounts, automation, proxies and everything relating to brigading.
Do you think automating some shit posting on an online forum costs a million dollar or something?
An intern could code a bot in an hour and add in to the already operating workflow. There are also ready-made products that just fill in forms and do social shit.
But sure bruh, no one's doing anything you don't know. You got it all figured out.
I didn't qualify my comment because I was just shit talking but seeing you're passionate about the subject let me further share some of my opinions.
I actually do believe that a place like lemmy could be used as testing grounds before bigger campaigns. I know this because I saw the first instances of Russian propaganda and Russian trolls in LiveLeak back in 2008. I see now a lot of the same strategies and talking points that they were employing a decade and a half ago. It feels as if liveleak was a sandbox where they honed a lot of their strategies before taking it to a wider audience.
That being said, I saw people crying about astroturfing on Lemmy because they were salty about something, when their clearly wasn't anything going on. Also, having dealt with it for decades I think it's pretty easy to pick up when trolls are present manipulating narratives. It's like seeing a bad actor in a play, you just knownthey are acting. And also, even as a sandbox I don't think there are armies of trolls dedicated to Lemmy. I can see maybe a handful of actors maybe coordinating. Hasbarah, who is clearly very active on Reddit, doesn't seem to have done much here on lemmy which would be fertile grounds for them. Same with the 50 Cent Army and Russian trolls.
Yes a billboard would reach more consumers 😭
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Makes me wonder, is either of them interested in cyber security?
Or we call out this weird shit loudly, don’t treat it like some “companies will be companies” thing, and maybe the people who would have worked with PaloAlto previously will reconsider working with the weird company that tried to present women as objects.
Not talking about this stuff is what got us here in the first place.
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Wait those rnt mannequins??
why use objects when you can literally objectify women
I had this discussion when Tiger Woods’ affair, et. al., was in the news. My friend argued the classic, “No such thing as bad press.”
And I disagreed.
So they finally upgraded it.
Where can I purchase the upgrade?
Even if we accept the idea that “booth babes” are a legitimate marketing ploy, this symbolic blinding-and-deafening of them and removing their faces (symbolically, their humanity) is superfuckingweird.
Seriously, how this got through to execution is pretty shameful.
Booth babes turned me off car and motorcycle shows... Get me someone who can talk about the product, not a girl hired to look good around it.
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I use to be in corporate sales, did a lot of conferences. Even in the most "professional" corporations the sales team culture is pretty garbage. My company was a little bit wilder than the others so I know the kinds of people that would be capable of doing this type of shit. The only way I can describe is as shock value, kinda "look what we did haha" and Im pretty sure thats whats going on here. Pretty childish.
Wonder how much per hour lamps make
Depends on which ones:
Booth babes are mostly making minimum wage + 50% to be hired as a model. ~$20 usd
If you see her name anywhere she's getting an appearance fee $1000/hr+ but that usually applies to local celebrities or hired talent.
Probably more than me tbh
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Looks like someone managed to work their forniphilia kink into the event booth. I don't even know how this would tie back to Palo Alto in the slightest
omg i completely forgot it had a name i had just been calling it jd vance syndrome
It actually a secret indictment of the objectification of women.
Hence the lampshading.
All they needed was for one of them to be a well dressed dude with a lampshade.
This has more to do with cybersecurity than you think: Anyone who thinks this booth is related to cybersecurity urgently needs cybersecurity advice.
To be fair I'm a man and have ended a few evenings out with a lampshade on my head
What does the company think it's saying with this?
This is undoubtedly a cocaine fueled decision.
Long drag off of 13th consecutive cigarette
"Yeah man, yeah! And then we can have sexy lamp bitches at the entrance and a guy doing chainsaw ice sculpting and..."
idk, maybe that women have a bright mind.
But I don't think they want us to tell anything at all, other than that it's marketing that makes people look.
It's marked on the poster as a happy hour event. The old 'lampshade on head drunk' character is what I'd guess the intention was, nothing more. It's a bit at odds with a formal dress since it's normally associated with a more raucous frat party type image, so not the best thought out particularly in a business presentation, but I doubt it was anything more sinister than that.
Yeah the ideas people are having in this thread is far more gross than what this actually is, imo. Those people need to go outside and interact with real people instead of sitting on xitter and lemmy all day.
Guys I think Graendal isn't bound in Shayol Ghul anymore.
As long as they're getting paid well to do a job they want to do and have breaks, I don't see the problem. It's a job and in this capitalist world, bills have to be paid somehow. Pretty low effort way to earn some money.
I'd stand around in a dress with a lampshade on my head if you paid me a living wage.
Woah woah woah who said anything about a living wage?
You be getting market rates here at ShittyTechCorp AND NO MORE
(I'd drop a /s but we all know that's what they unironically think)
genuinely cannot tell whether those are mannequins
If only there was a way to say no if someone ask you to be a lamp.
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