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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Omfg

The EU is good for something.

Tho it's still a shame that it's not the customers demand that is making this happen.

Mandatary memory card support and physical SIM forever next.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did manufacturers take these features away???

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So they can sell you another phone sooner.

[–] nick_99 1 points 1 year ago

To make the phones "waterproof" which is funny because even tho phones are water "waterproof" manufactures won't warrenty them out if there's water damage. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do security updates for a minimum of 5 years next

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Or just open source the drivers and we'll have all the updates forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple's gonna def overcharge for the replacements

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Back to the good old times! :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

With how capable modern mobile CPUs are phones could really last a long time without feeling "so last generation" very fast. So the battery really often is the bottleneck and not having it be replaceable would really just be planned obsolescence with extra steps. It's good to hear some good news once in a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good! Bring back keyboards too!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The European Parliament also caused a major headache for all super small and wearables manufacturers too.

All earbuds, airtags, rechargeable lighter, kid's toys, etc

All those super small devices now have to have replaceable batteries, which makes them not very small anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The European Parliament also caused a major headache for all super small and wearables manufacturers too.

Well... It seems device manufacturers should have thought of that before starting shipping glued electronics 😊

No one likes to pay €80+ to replace their phone's battery. Most of the times people just throw their devices away and buy new ones.

Or, for example, people just throw their €100+ airpods to the trash just because the battery isn't "replaceable".

Totally agree with EU's position.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Headline from 2028: Why You phone Dies When It Gets Wet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had waterproof smartphones before this idiocy of non-replacable batteries. Ten years ago!

Just some examples:

Sony Xperia Active (2011)

Samsung Galaxy S5 (2014)

Today's smartphones are built cheap. Sadly. Louis Rossmam explains this well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Waterproofing was more difficult with replaceable batteries. It was a feature you paid extra for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Was it?

So many years have passed since that phone came out.

Manufacturers had more than enough time to do something right besides just being water resistant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But there was phones from 2010s with removable batteries and water protection.

And sony have some water resistant phones with removable batteries now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more expensive to waterproof a phone with a removable battery. Yes, there were phones from the 2010s that were waterproof and had removable batteries, but that was a feature you had to pay extra for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And phones are currently the most expensive they've ever been, even adjusted to inflation. Waterproofing with replacable batteries would barely dent the price, especially after a few years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt that they're the most expensive they've ever been. iPhones and flagship phones may well be because the companies that make them know the morons that buy them will pay $1000 for a status symbol, but you can purchase new smartphones for under $200. Considering the original iPhone cost triple that, your claim seems ludicrous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm referring to the average - obviously there'll always be decentbudget phones with an unbeatable price-to-performance ratio.

Here's a source for my claim - I couldn't find any better ones after a few minutes.

According to this:

The ASP [average selling price] of the North American smartphone market reached its historic Q1 record high of US$790 this year.

Yes, the low sale of budget phones certainly contributes, however, the market for premium phones grew by 33% from last year clearly being the main driver of this increase.

With more and more people having more and more expensive phones, how will having replacable batteries while being waterproof drive up the price?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The average iseaningless here.

I sell a phone for 1 billion dollars. That raises the average price to a million dollars. If you go to any store and grab 100 phones at random, their pricing will not reflect the average.