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I hate people who be passive-aggressive JUST to get their point across (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Like, what the fuck ever happened to compassion?! It just seems like every fucking person online nowadays has to be passive-aggressive to someone JUST to get their stupid point across. Like, why are people so goddamn inconsiderate of others well-beings these days? It seems like they truly get a hate boner from every fucking thing they see online and think it is okay to be an asshole to them. Getting your point across to someone does NOT mean you can be an asshole about it and speak in a very rude and passive-agrressive manner to the OP. Have some goddamn compassion and at LEAST be nice when you're talking to them. Back in the days when I was first on the internet in the early 2000s, people were FAR more understanding of shit and weren't fucking assholes about it when trying to explain something to people. The Wild West of the internet was truly a much different and far better place than the internet we have now. Now, pretty much EVERY site like Reddit and Twitter has assholes being passive-agrressive or have a straight-up shitty attitude in general. Speak your mind even ONCE and people feel the need to be an asshole about it. There are features like the fucking block button for a goddamn reason, use them wisely and efficiently! If you truly do not like what someone has to say, fuck off somewhere else, leave the person alone, and block them if you so chose to. Being a fucking asshat about it doesn't get you anywhere, and NOR does it get your point across. All it does is makes you hated by the people who DO ACTUALLY give a shit. There is a serious fucking lack of respect, empathy, and compassion these days. These days a fucking MONKEY is more compassionate than a human, and I truly hate to say that, but it's true. We are truly going BACKWARDS with being 'human' with each other. This needless rudeness only makes me miss the old internet even more.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I agree with you, it's kinda sad. I remember random awesome encounters on Everquest all the time, back in the day. I make "no snark" a policy, myself. Be the change, and all that.

I do have to say: Hot Wheels DO Vroom! I had a Black Corvette Hot Wheels that rocked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You definitely don’t come off as passive aggressive that one is certain lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

By passive aggressive I think you mean snarky, sarcastic, rude, while also indirect. Rather than engage in good faith, online culture in the West is mostly meme thoughts that are mocking.

I think an important aspect of this is the inconsistency between most people's understanding and their sense that they deserve and should defend and opinion. American culture, and by extension American-centric corners of the internet, ties having a take to a person's status. Saying, "I don't know" is rarely rewarded and is often punished. Pretending to have knowledge leads to social advantage so long as you aren't deeply and credibly contradicted, which is easy to avoid because virtually everyone else is also faking it and a bunch of them are in a given camp. Decide to be anti-vaxx? You will have your cloistered space to hang out and bullshit each other. Hear an anti-anti-Vaxx view? Use one of 200 dismissive thought-terminating cliches to avoid engagement.

A significant challenge to this is that being actually knowledgeable and patiently engaging in good faith is not the antidote to this. It will reach some people but won't counteract arrogance. It will even make some people more arrogant, as you are projecting a sense that they should be taken seriously.

Ironically, it is usually more effective to just be more knowledgeable and correct and make fun of them and don't take them seriously. This won't create a culture free of snark but it will police ridiculous and wrong people that are used to getting away with, say, repeating Reddit cliches and turning their brains off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think "passive aggressive" means what you think it means. Outright rudeness is normal aggressive, active, not passive at all.

Anyway, the Internet has always been home to the flame. This predates the Web, of course. It all depends what community you're in. If you're in a caustic community, and the lulz are not satisfying, go find a different one.

Maybe that's sad, if the community used to be one you lived, but life goes on and there's a simple fix. So go fix it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Would've been nice to use paragraphs...

[+] lurch 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, absolutely not. These types of people will speak in a rude and passive-aggressive manner and then justify their selfish actions by saying shit like "welcome to the internet, you're opening yourself up to it, blah blah blah". No. No one is opening themselves up to being treated with disrespect just for voicing their opinions on something. Sometimes people need to get shit off of their chest, voice their opinions, make themselves heard and sometimes even seeking advice from people. You can absolutely give out advice without being an asshole and being condescending. It is not that fucking hard to have respect for people's opinions. If you actually be nice to them and give advice in a kind and considerate manner, then that advice will actually be helpful. But no, you instead choose to spew out hate then give out advice like it has any value or worth at this point. The advice is supposed to help people out, not make the person feel like shit. "Not sure what you expected" I expected to be treated with respect even if you don't agree with me. This is exactly why the old internet is so much fucking better. People actually gave a shit about others online and didn't act like total douchebags. If you're gonna treat others badly you will be treated the same way. It's called having "respect" for people, which most, if not all of the people on the modern internet severely lack. Being an asshole doesn't get your point across, it just makes you look bad and it makes it so no one wants to be around or talk to you. If you don't want that, then be respectful to people including the OP. Be an asshole to people, and you will be treated the same way. It's not that fucking hard to have respect for others, stop acting like it is.