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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No pedals, thus not an ebike but an escooter

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At what point does it become a motorcycle rather than an e-bike? It's electric only without the ability to pedal it, so I'm not sure how it's a bike?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Owlet has no pedals, just footrests; I suppose that technically it's a scooter rather than an e-bike, though the latter is how the company is marketing it.

Good question. It seems like the article calls it that because that's what the creators refer to it as. Why they call it an e-bike instead of a scooter... no idea. Trendy buzzwords, maybe? SEO optimization? It's no secret that "electric scooter" sounds lame but everyone wants an "e-bike."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually no. Moped is a portmanteau for Motor-Pedal. It's a scooter, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh huh. Ok.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

People associate scooters and mopeds with being on the road with cars. By calling it an ebike they are making it clear what use case they intend for the bike. Hence why the promo video shows it being used in bike lanes and a couple having fun near a waterfront, that's the type of stuff you do on a bike not a moped.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on local laws I would assume. Where I live e-bikes are limited to 30km/h and must have pedals (although throttles are still allowed). Functionally yes you aren't pedaling but in terms of speed and weight it is closer to a bicycle than a motorcycle. If I ride an e-bike but only use the throttle does it cease to be an ebike?

Honestly as much as I hate dudes on fat bikes ripping past me in the bike lane I can't think of any good reasons not to encourage all forms of micromobility. The more people who use and rely on cycling infrastructure the better. If that means I have to share my bike lane with douchebags on fat bikes so be it.

Just to be clear, I have no issue with fat bikes themselves. But we all know the type of person I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the response, that's exactly what I was curious about. Wasn't sure if there were technical/legal definitions that would make this a scooter/"e-bike" vs a motorcycle.

The author of the article seemed somewhat uncertain themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like the aesthetics, but this seems like one of the most impractical things I've ever seen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Like I said, it looks really nice so if someone wants one more power to them.

I think it's impractical because the battery looks like it's sealed, it definitely doesn't qualify as an ebike anywhere with ebike regulations, there's absolutely no room for any on-bike storage bags, the handlebars being level with the seat seems like it would be incredibly uncomfortable, and the short wheelbase has me concerned about riding stability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Flesh cutter.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not for me but I appreciate when things take aesthetic risks. I was genuinely shocked to see it was designed and made in California, every bit of the promo model looked so British to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No tubing

Then what's that tube?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 3 points 1 month ago

Hard pass lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Can you put it in a backpack?

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 month ago

Deliberately goofy, but I appreciate these radical takes on a battery with wheels.