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Is it “Camel-uh” or “Cam-ahl-uh”?

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Thank you for this. I’ve heard her name mispronounced so often that I genuinely thought kah-MALL-uh was correct. Whoops! Comma-la it is!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Happy to help!

Oh, I shoulda linked to a first-hand source where she herself wrote "comma-la" as the pronunciation (no particular accent on syllables). It is in her book, and also towards the bottom of this piece has that excerpts from her book: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/book-excerpt-kamala-harris-truths-hold/story?id=60234101

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Commala? As in the pokemon Komala?

So it really is Komala Harris vs Trumpshoos

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

"Comma-la" unfortunately doesn't help much for people without US accents lol (though of course people in the US are who the question and answer are most relevant to). On first reading -- without the accent or something close to it -- it implies "kom-uh-luh", whereas with the accent it implies something more like "kah-muh-luh", just based on how people pronounce "comma" differently.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Obama, Obamala, 'bamala, Kamala

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

Whoa Black Betty, 'bamala

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

That's one of the cleverest pronunciation guides I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

Thanks Obamala.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit here come the conspiracy theories now....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Guise. Guise. They're both black.... Dons tinfoil hat

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Tomorrow on Alex Jones' podcast: Kamala Harris is actually Barrack Obama in drag. It's all part of his nefarious plan to subverting term limits and force Healthcare on everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Pres·i·dent /ˈprezəˌdent/

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think it's pronounced "Madam President"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

So say we all.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

However she pronounces it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (22 children)

Right right right

and that would be ... ?


Oh, I found the video on her Youtube channel literally addressing this question back in 2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVGfzbP7WBY

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

KAH-muh-luh HAER-is

Kamala (/ˈkɑːmələ/) Harris (/ˈhærɪs/)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact.

In Finnish "kamala" means "awful".

We are gonna have endless dad jokes with this one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

In British English, Trump means (1) the sound an elephant makes or (2) a fart, particularly a noisy one. If you trump your own horn it means you're boastful and think of yourself higher than other people do.

President Trump = President Fart.
Still funny after all these years, despite the looming fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago
[–] emergencyfood 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Indian (Sanskrit) name is pronounced ka-ma-laa (meaning lotus), with no stress, and no gap in between the syllables. The first two 'a's are pronounced like the 'u' in rum, while the last is the same sound but longer (so like the 'a' in calm).

The US Presidential candidate's name is pronounced the way she likes, which in this case is closer to ko-ma-laa.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Karma-la... But drop the 'r'

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

/kəmələ/ is how it is said. Those weird gyphs are IPA symbols, not sure if they're part of any European languages that uses Latin as their alphabet.

The issue with English is that it is a non-phonetic language. In English, 'a' can sound either like æ, eɪ, ɑː, ɔː, etc (refer IPA). The specific 'a' sound in Kamala has a name, by the way - it is called schwa (ə).

I'm pretty sure a French or a German wouldn't butcher this name, as their alphabets are pretty consistent in phonetic pronunciation - they just map fine with Indian languages, like take for example, Hindi - 'a' -> अ, 'i' -> इ, 'e' -> ए, 'o' -> ओ, etc.

In Devanagari, it is written as कमला (ka + ma + laa), which is the feminine form of कमल (ka + ma + la). In Hindi, every varnmala by default has a short 'a' - adding a ा turns this into a longer 'aa' sound (क् + अ -> क (ka), क् + आ -> का (kaa)).

Yes, I know that Kamala is probably half-Dravidian (Tamil, or Telugu, I think), but it really doesn't matter a lot - sure, there's some differences between Indo-Aryan and Dravidian languages, one of which being the schwa deletion, but apart from that, most letters are almost similar in function.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's 'cause we took the letters from Latin, which actually had 5 vowels, and applied it to a Germanic language which, in my dialect, has 17.

We also standardised the spelling in patches hundreds of years ago, and never updated it, but that's a sort of separate issue.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's pronounced Kah-muh-lah

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone have the IPA pronunciation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

/kəmələ/ is the sound. Since she's half-Dravidian, we don't do schwa deletion over here.

Edit: /kəmələ/, not /kə.mə.lə/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

That's not how she pronounces her name, so it's not her name.

The Vice president of the United States is named Kamala (/ˈkɑːmələ/) Harris (/ˈhærɪs/)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

My friend, Americans do not care about how words are pronounced in the original language/location.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Anyone else craving olives after reading this thread?

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