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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Excellent, call it what it is, an alliance against fascism. An Anti-fascist organization, if you will.

Now we just need to make sure Germany doesn't declare war. Again.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Our government isn’t right wing yet. Gotta wait for the next election. And with our left basically disappearing to birth a horseshoe party, there’s not much to hope for…

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Good news, finally.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Incredibly good news. They're ahead of both the far right and the centrists.

[-] mindbleach 2 points 1 week ago

This is probably failing to read the room, but a better electoral system wouldn't need rounds. You can just rank people in one go.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm glad they're pulling ahead, but I can't help thinking that any electoral system that's capable of producing a surprising outcome is fundamentally broken, because it means that a handful of people have a huge impact on the final outcome.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It's because projections from the first round did not take into account how much people hate the far right and would vote another party that passed the first round, even if they don't agree with them, to prevent the far right from getting elected. In three-ways for the second round, the parties in third position that were either centrists or leftists called for their candidate to remove themselves from the vote to allow for a bigger coalition against the far right

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Or people could have heeded warnings of a looming fascist takeover en masse.

Or the predictions were simply erroneous.

Or it's not surprising to everyone, just the ones in charge of the media.


There's tons of possible explanations that don't involve a few powerful people conspiring.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

I said nothing about conspiring. I was thinking of how a swing of a few percent of voters in many systems can be all it takes to swing the outcome between different extremes of policy and ideology. No system with that property can reliably represent the will of the people, because whatever the overall will is, the system will routinely fail to represent it. People elected to nationwide offices should be boring centrists pretty much 100% of the time because most countries have little ideological consistency in their populations and they should never have a national leader who antagonizes a large portion of the population.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I disagree with pretty much everything, but THIS is absolute lunacy:

People elected to nationwide offices should be boring centrists pretty much 100% of the time

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Have fun playing fascist roulette, then. That's what's happening whether we want it or not.

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