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[–] [email protected] 203 points 1 month ago

A distributed pseudonymous ledger for use by a centralised authority that will hold sensitive, personal information.

I think the paper was right.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is it Blockchain based though?

It is a shitty porn passport, I'm Spanish, but I didn't hear that it was Blockchain based.

Why? It needs a centrar register not an uncentralized one.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I was just looking through some documentation on it. It says it uses a "digital wallet". Maybe people are seeing that and thinking that means it's blockchain-based? I'm not seeing anything more solid claiming there's any blockchain involved, though. (I'm not 100% certain there isn't any blockchain involved, though.)

It's BS either way. Extra super plus plus BS if it's blockchain-based. But still BS even if there's no blockchain involved.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do they need blockchain for it though?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. This won't work any better, either. Keeping anonymous porn off the internet is like trying to prevent kids from fooling around with sex by not telling them about sex.

Unless you're removing their genitals, they're GOING to figure it out. The situation only gets worse with more ignorance and more control.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Children almost infinite free time, creative mind and bored. They will find what they want to find.

Then tell them to not do X, they gonna put ALL their energy to do X. Cannot stop them, only work with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Just tell them not to do Y then, problem solved.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

bit of a futile endeavour tbh, if a kid with access to the Internet wants to see porn, they're going to find porn. And if they don't have access to the basic sources they'll probably find a more dodgy, unmoderated, and possibly extreme porn than if their curiosity got sated by pornhub or something

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Agreed. Even going back to sharing stuff via Whatsapp or something like that, they are going to evade control for sure. But when will society be ready to just be honest with kids about what exists and teach them how to safely explore that and give them context? I guess we'd rather have dystopian control than that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm not sure why so many adults try so desperately to forget what they were like as kids and teenagers. Rather than stop their biological urges, curb them or direct them towards safe release. Letting them figure it out on their own, and how else can they if you don't actually teach them, is a recipe for disaster.

Two of the best ways to reduce teen pregnancy are sex education and easy access to contraceptives.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Once verified, they'll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

...I'm sorry, what? Is the government keeping track of how much porn I use?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Guy who wrote a paper about Blockchain doesn't know the difference between a "digital wallet" and Blockchain...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Why would anyone chain their porn?
Cockchains are not for that. Not really for anything, but not for that too.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What about all the games where you can shoot people? Why is that okay for kids, but a little tit here and there will destroy their view of the world?

Didn't these things get their starts by sucking on tits? So why hide them now?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There is this famous spanish porn actor. Nacho vidal, who says that we would have a better world is kids would play around with plastic dildos instead of plastic guns.

I don't know the playing with plastic dildos, but it is true how wild is the normalization of giving kids a replica of a human killing instrument to play with.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Not sure why everybody needs a copy of my, I mean, somebody's porn passport.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to suck dick for blockcain..still do... but I used to too

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wonder how many sites will bother checking for Spanish pornpasses. Seems they're just playing people and waiting for the inevitable, "Turns out the Internet isn't respecting our kids, we need to ratchet up the control. We tried to give you a good deal though, right?"

[–] Socsa 4 points 1 month ago

That's the insidious part of all this - the government will set up captive portals which require you to verify yourself to get outside the federal network. It will start with porn, then it will be VPNs, and so on. This is just a very convenient excuse to establish the infrastructure and process framework which will eventually be used to kill the open internet by a million cuts.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Oh no Spain has an "innovative" idea to fuck the internet!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

One of the things blockchain could do is become a digital proof of ownership, augmenting or replacing things like property deeds and car titles. We already agree that a written record of ownership of such things is legally binding (even if the writing is stored digitally), but transfer of that ownership to another person is still a very manual process. Imagine an NFT that represents ownership of your house, and when you want to sell your house, you transfer that NFT to someone else's custody - adding their ownership information to it. It would record the entire chain of ownership, and specific details about the piece of property involved.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Without law enforcement, which is centralized anyway, your documented ownership is worthless. So if the state or a similar centralized real life organization, whiches existence people agree on, is needed to grant and enforce that ownership, blockchain is unnecessary. They can instead just store that shit in a database.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (8 children)

And who would the largest nodes on that blockchain be? The banks? Who could say and do whatever they conspired since they command >50% of the computing power and/or value?

The average person isn’t going to build a fucking blockchain node just to keep the deed to their house.

“Grandma, please you need to fill your basement with these ASICs or else script kiddies will steal your house”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It could. It may or may not. I agree decentralization is a good thing, but do governments agree as well? First of all, governments are very resistant to change if that doesn't play into their interests (real or percieved like this privacy violation). Using a traditional database to keep track of ownership seems cheaper (since they already do it) but most of all simpler. I'm not too familiar with the way blockchain functions so I may be wrong, but say someone wants to sell a car. In the current state of most countries you just draw up a paper or fill out a form, maybe get it notarized and pay taxes. A database seems flexible enough that if your sale didn't get logged and the buyer got pulled over and questioned, they could provide the contract and clear up any questions about ownership. Or say the ownership was stripped as part of a court order. If it was a database, then changing the records is simple, but with blockchain the court would either have to get you to transfer the ownership volountarily, force you to disclose your keys or have some mechnism of forcing a transaction from the requester account (which as I understand it seems what blockchain is here to stop abd a core part of the specification). Alternatively the government just uses blockchain instead of a database, managing all the keys, wallets and identities (as in they have everyone's keys and do all the transactions) which is the same level of centralization as a database, but with extra steps.

Ownership was (and is) a social contract, and a flexible one at that. Things get gifted volountarily, sold, taken away lawfully and inherited in a single jurisdiction by the thousands daily, and not all of these are well documented. Blockchain seems very limited in what it can do flexibility-wise which makes it unsuitable for keeping track of ownership, and that's not taking into account that either everyone would have to actively use the blockchain for their sales and be familiar with the technology (decentralized) or having all the wallet keys operated by the government (defeating any useful feature of the blockchain for citizens). Adding blockchain into the mix will just complicate the transfer process and centralize it (as in we either do all validation on the blockchain or none), and with the fact that all the transfer history is centralised in the blockchain (despite it being decentralised in storage, it's still explicitly stored and accessible) it would serve as just another venue of privacy violation and opression.

Maybe blockchain could be useful for things like, say carbon credits, or similar government-issued 'currency', but I don't see it applicable to validating general ownership on a large scale for the general population, ever. The 'digital Euro' proposal, also being blessed by the buzzword Blockchain seems very distopian to me as well. Here, with currency being used I can see how it would be applicable in the real world (instead of heavily unstandardised land deeds, sales contracts and other proofs of ownership you have strictly defined currency units), but this also seems like a gross privacy violation as the government (and maybe anyone) can see where you got your money and where you're spending it down to the cent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

is a helluva drug

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

its 'decentralized' copium

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The Blockchain is amazingly useful, that's why the establishment did their best to make sure people associate with incels and little monkey pictures to ruin its credibility. A banking system running on Blockchain is one where the Pentagon can't lose trillions of dollars annually.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (14 children)

A banking system running on Blockchain

Is an astronomically terrible idea. It:

  • would use as much electricity as an entire country
  • payments/transfers would be both much slower AND much more expensive than via a bank
  • would have no protection against fraud. You got scammed? Your money's gone. You paid for something online and it never arrived? Too bad
  • would have no way to stop money laundering
  • would have no way to help people who forgot their password, they'd just lose their life savings permanently
  • would tie up a bunch of capital, preventing reinvestment and growth. There would be no way to get a bank loan to buy a house for example
  • the list goes on
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

make sure people associate with incels and little monkey pictures to ruin its credibility

yall 100% did that to yourselves

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[–] Voroxpete 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes, let's just make everyone's financial transactions public record. That couldn't possibly be an insanely dangerous thing to do.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bad research based on subjective opinion? I dont see how anyone would see blockchain in itself as useless. It provides a verification method without the use of a centralized system. Are all peer-to-peer systems useless now? Its not to be used as a tool for everything. It will not fix everything. I'd be more interested in research of what happens when reactionary practices are used. Such as using blockchain just because it's the hot new trend without thoroughly thinking about the consequences of such actions. blockchain = bad / blockchain = good is not good enough, each implementation needs to be studied independently and answers derived from that. Replace blockchain with AI and it's the same.

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