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Predictable Musk apologist.

Tesla is the only company with such incorrect range estimates. There is now tons of evidence, such as internal communication, indicating that this was intentional lying. If they win, the payout will be to all affected, not just to those filing suit.

One of my favorite things about Lemmy is that right-wing apologists and bootlickers get called out pretty consistently.

It’s literally 3 people in California

A class action always starts with a handful of plaintiffs. It must be established first that there is grounds for a class action. In other words, you have to demonstrate that this is part of a larger problem. The first step is that small group of people. They file suit, and then it's decided if the case should have class action status. Once the case is given class action status, all people that may have been effected are notified that they may qualify for the class action. In other words, literally 3 people in California are how a class action lawsuit gets started. If you knew anything about the legal process, you would know this.

Teslas are tested to the EPA test cycles, same as every other car in the US. They’ve been audited multiple times, and always passed.

Volkswagen vehicles were tested too. Turns out they had special programming to determine when they were being tested rather than normally driven.

This cost them close to $15 billion.

https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/volkswagen-clean-air-act-civil-settlement https://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772

Ah yes, an unverified report from a single unnamed source with 10-year-old knowledge.

All "sources" are unnamed. Welcome to journalism 101. If they're named, they're not "a source." You just credit them. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/ Fucking Deepthroat was a "source" and he took down Nixon. It wasn't until decades later that his actual identity was revealed. When a "source" is coming from someplace like Reuters you assume they're legit until shown otherwise.

Also, learn to read. The actual statement is that Tesla STARTED modifying these numbers about ten years ago, not that their information is ten years old.

If the “investigative” reporter wanted to test this, they could literally just go and find a new Tesla and see what its fully-charged range says. Trivially simple. But it would show the EPA range which goes against their story, so they don’t mention it.

What part of "still uses" do you not understand? Tesla can modify the software of the car on the fly. Were you not aware of that? All they have to do is send an update to change these things. Can't prove it? Well buddy, that's what a lawsuit is for. Now the onus is on Tesla to prove that they aren't doing illegal shit.

I don't know why you have "investigative" in scare quotes other than to show how ignorant you are.

In tech (and Tesla is a tech company) it’s called L1 support.

You have clearly not read anything about this team. It's not there to be first line support. It's there to convince people there aren't any issues with their cars, regardless of whether or not there is something wrong. I suggest you hang around some Tesla forums where people that have actually encountered this Diversion Team post.

They're there solely to keep Muskypants from feeling bad about himself and his shitty product.

But sure, go on blaming people buying Teslas for being "bad with technology" when the average Tesla owner is LITERALLY A FUCKING TECHBRO.

Bootlicking is a bad habit. Drop it like I dropped your mom last Saturday.

Let's also not forget that this issue applied to ICE vehicles as well for decades. The EPA city/highway MPG ratings were always way higher on paper than in practice until they reformulated their testing several years back to give more accurate numbers.

Yes, selling a defective product makes you liable for the result of that defect.

This is basic fucking business unless you're a right-wing jerkoff "libertarian."