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I have a Pixel 4a (with Calyx) for a few years already (start of 2021) and it's still going great. The battery is okay. Everything works nice. It's smooth. It runs everything perfectly fine.

This makes me glad to see that hardware wise this phone was really built to last, I can't even count how many times I dropped it so hard that I was scared to see the damage (which was always either nothing or a broken screen protector)

But software wise I'm screwed as security updates are already gone from Google and I only get the extended support from Calyx which will also end soon.

Now I'm forced to choose between having a phone that is insecure or buying a new one.

So thanks Google for the high quality hardware, but what's up with this software planned obsolescence??

I know this isn't exactly right to repair, but it also kind of is because if Google decided to ditch the 4a, they should be forced to open source the software so that the public can actually repair it.

I'm sure that some of their latest updates can be modified slightly to work for the 4a, but they don't care and for them this is a win-win since they don't have to maintian support and they get new customers who would otherwise be satisfied with an "old" phone.

What happened to the days when an old phone meant a phone that was already crumbling to pieces, and not a fully functional computer that is slightly older then a toddler?

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

GrapheneOS is an option. The Pixel 4a is not really supported any longer with the current branch but...it's GrapheneOS so it'll be secure(ish). https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices.

Do keep in mind GrapheneOS has some weird, deal-breaking issues, like RCS not working and other weird, random shit like that.

[-] threelonmusketeers 4 points 2 weeks ago

RCS

Reaction control system?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Really Cool Shoes?

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Googles attempt at intercepting all text messages.

It’s supposed to be SMS 2.0 but only google took it serious and it’s only supported by Google. Most carriers that do support it are using Googles Jibe system, they’ve now pressured apple into using it as well. Likely tied to the many billions they pay apple every year.

Google doesn’t let anyone else make a RCS app except them and Samsung. So you can’t get a free and open messenger with it.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I own the same phone. Also mine still is perfectly alright. I'm currently on GrapheneOS but that's also not supported anymore. Sometimes I get some smaller patches. I'm planning to switch to LineageOS. The phone seems still supported there and they even have Android 14 available.

I'm certainly not wasting that phone. Except for the camera which seems a bit outdated to me, compared to the camera of my partner's Samsung... It's still a really nice phone. And I refuse to buy a new one at this point.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Lineage OS doesn't have secure boot which is a huge security issue

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Sure. But running an unmaintained operating system also is an huge security issue. I mean the proper choice is quite obvious: get rid of the phone and buy a new one that's supported by Calyx or Graphene. But since I'm not willing to do that, I have to choose what's more important to me.

And with security, it always depends on the specific threat model. I'm not sure if I need secure boot that badly. Can people steal my phone, flash a different OS and access the cryptographic key to my storage? Because that'd be one of the things I worry about. If not, I don't think I care about secure boot that much... YMMV

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Lineage OS could be OK for you.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm on the fence in that, but thank you!

[-] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have a Pixel 4a (with Calyx) for a few years already (start of 2021)

That’s just a little over three years ago.

This is why I run with Apple. Because even though their repairability sucks even more than Android, they are built like tanks and they get six to seven years of full OS updates, and not just security patches.

And the security patches continue for another year or two after that.

Nothing else comes close. Sure, the big players in Android have now claimed five years of OS updates, but I was promised Android 13 with my Nokia 7.2, yet I am still on the original Android 11 that the phone came with - Nokia never even released 12, much less 13 for that model.

I will believe these vendors once they are actually pushing Android v.X+5 to a phone that launched with v.X.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Apple is not an option for me as they are completely closed source and super invasive of customer privacy (their privacy claims are "only we will know everything about you" which is creepy AF)

On the same concept I can also say that hou should just use a linux phone as these are very likely to be kept updated for years, but it's not really a reasonable option for this situation.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

and super invasive of customer privacy (their privacy claims are "only we will know everything about you" which is creepy AF)

Completely false. If you enable advanced data encryption, your iCloud data is encrypted such that even Apple cannot access it.

Which is why they introduced Legacy Contacts for next of kin… if someone with an iPhone dies, and their relatives want access to the deceased’s data but no-one knows the phone passcode or the iCloud credentials and don’t have legacy access, they can spend hundreds of millions of dollars suing Apple and Apple will be unable to provide access.

As someone who has actually worked on a system like this in another capacity, it really does works as advertised.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, your iCloud data is encrypted, but what about all the metadata that Apple collects from your phone or on the files in iCloud? What about everything else you're doing on your phone? It's not just about having access to the data of your files.

Also, not having encryption on by default is creepy and purposeful.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

New Google Pixels come with 7 years of security updates and 7 major Android updates. With GrapheneOS you generally geht all AOSP updates. https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices After that GrapheneOS offers 3 years of harm reduction updates https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime New Samsung devices (like the S24) also come with 7 years of security updates + 7 Android Version updates.

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