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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It depends. What kind of beer?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if it’s sold outside of Ireland but β€œMurphy’s” is really good, and of course, Guinness (if you’re into stouts)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yes! Murphy's Stout is also available in the US. Might not be as good as yours tho

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And how many beers? Lol pretty easy to mess up dd if and of flags, as well and drive names and partition numbers, especially while drinking.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

What a coincidence, I'm drinking mead and installing Gentoo. Currently compiling gcc, always takes forever, maybe I should've gone with the recompiled binary for that one lol.

No ragrets.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You'll never believe this but I'm chugging absynth and installing Red Star OS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I've always wanted to try both of those.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Did the absynth goblins visit you yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

mead

Do you really drink a honey based brew?

There is almost certainly a binary version of gcc in Gentoo. I ran Gentoo for 20 odd years and also generally insisted on compiling everything. I recall gcc going from v3 to 4. My laptop ran for over a week on a glass table with a prop to keep the fan vent unobstructed.

I probably should have learned back then that I didn't really understand exactly how the toolchain worked and how to get from ebuilds to binary code really works. I'm a sysadmin and not a programmer.

With hindsight, I suggest that you pick your fights with care. Use the bin versions of entire packages where available and enjoy the flexibility of USE when it will make a difference.

gcc is not the biggest lump you will compile but it does take a while. It was rather slower 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yep, I drink mead, i.e. honey wine. It's really good, doesn't give me as much of a headache as beer these days. Sometimes it's too sweet, I haven't found a good dry one around here though.

I played around with Gentoo a few years ago, got it working but then got annoyed with some binaries taking too long. Wanted to build a machine I couldn't hack though, and now there's a repo with precompiled bins if you ask portage nicely, so I figured I'd give it a shot again. Maybe it was the mead but I forgot to do that for gcc though. oops

[–] Steamymoomilk 2 points 5 months ago

Cheers to gentoo

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You having regrets depends on your expectations. If you want a very stable system with little maintenance then you'll be happy. Packages will be older but that's what makes it easy to keep stable.

I'm not personally a fan of vanilla Debian because the stable versions are a bit too outdated for the things I like to work with. I do use Debian derivatives though the LTS versions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you’re using Debian as a daily driver you can always use a Flatpak if you need a newer version than what’s available in the repos. The foundation is solid, though, and that’s what matters - it’s one of the things that keeps bringing me back to Debian for office workstation use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

You can also use backports for some of the more "system entangled software" that cannot be packaged in a flatpak. Or, you can skip ahead to "Trixie" unstable. It has been great for me for the last several months. It's arguably more stable than what Ubuntu calls an LTS.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Regrets aplenty after some of the things I've drank, but none of them are about Debian.

[–] funkless_eck 11 points 5 months ago

I am commenting this from a terrible strip club with friends who dragged me here. I wish I was in your position.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you need new drivers then Debian is not the easiest distro. I love Debian but I do occasionally consider distro-hopping again to get some complex things working (like ROCm).

I do think Debian is an excellent starting place, though. If it suits you, great! If not, you'll have a better idea of what you need to look for going forward. Hopping distros isn't the end of the world, after all.

[–] TerraRoot 1 points 5 months ago

I think debian and kde is a great first distro, but yeah getting ROCm working on it is the suck,

[–] jws_shadotak 6 points 5 months ago

I put that shit on everything

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Debian for 20 years with some formative years in Gentoo. Always went back to Debian. No regrets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Woah this is freaky, I just saw this thread on mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just ran out of my local brews, Troegs Field Study IPA, so going to be cracking open some Coors Banquet soon. But I don't think you will. I use Debian 12 with AwesomeWM and love it.

[–] pastermil 3 points 5 months ago

What machine do you have for this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Main desktop runs Arch but everything else runs Debian. It's the perfect "install and forget" system so long as you don't need the absolute bleeding edge packages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It may feel tasty and great today... but it (definitely) won't feel great as much in the future. Have some respect on yourself and drink something healthy instead -- there are better ways to have fun than that.

That aside, Debian can be very user friendly just like any other distro -- I say go for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Debian has treated me kindly since I installed it a week ago. Only issue I discovered was with a wireless mouse sometimes not working on boot but thats fixed with solaar.

Still miss arch but I don't feel like installing it again lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sometimes a wireless mouse problem is just "I also plugged in a USB 3.0 device, and it puts out so much RF noise that it's jamming my mouse dongle and the local airport's approach radar".

USB can be bitchy that way.