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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Primarily. Secondarily, to avoid putting all my eggs in one basket. As in, not using one singular network of services, and instead spreading it out. Diversify yo services.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

One of the reasons I do it is because Google is a bad partner. They will cancel your accounts and delete the contents for no reason, offer no way to get it back and they just don't care. They will happily do that to companies that pay them thousands a month, they really just don't care. Even if you don't buy into the company being evil and privacy invading its also just unreliable to use as any moment they could blow all your data away without reason.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy is a concern but not the primary concern. Google is too big to be in your life. If you use Google it's in everything. If Google ever kicks you out your life is going to be very difficult while you rebuild your entire digital profile. Google's too much of a risk.

Not to mention Google is demonstrated they will kill services at the drop of a hat. So relying on them is asking for trouble.

Google heavily uses algorithms to identify accounts to delete or block or ban. And this goes back to if your entire digital life is tied to Google and they do block you, you have no recourse. Google doesn't talk to humans for reconsideration. You're just out of luck.

Google is too much of a risk for a stable life

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Always make a new account for every website, never sign in via your Google account, Microsoft account, etc. It was a neat feature when it came out, but it's just too much of a risk.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most seem to mention privacy. Choice as important as privacy. Do things your own way. Selecting the services you want to do common things on your device. As I went along I realised how deep google enforcement was and how hard they made choice for users. That made me want to rip off even more google from the device. I came to a state that I host every service I run my self.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why it's called a walled garden. If you're enjoying the garden, you don't notice the walls. Until the day you get tired of it, try to leave, and suddenly you realize just how high the walls have gotten when you weren't paying attention.

That's partially why the Integrity bullshit with chromium is worrying: the average user will not appreciate the issue until it really affects them, and by that point, it will be far too late.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Privacy was the reason it started, but I was also constantly bothered by the growing annual profits they earned from people basically giving away access to their information and livelihoods for free. I realized how valuable our information is, and the only way to break this deepening centralization and control of it, was to take it all back. Self-hosting and supporting FOSS are my methods to regain control in this war. It has become a sort of holy war for me at this point. Lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Primarily yes, however a few other reasons are that i like FOSS, see no advertising (thanks to controld dns), and it makes midrange phones run much better than they would with all that crap in the background.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

As a general rule, I also hate monopolies

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy is my biggest thing. But, no. Then there's the whole "I don't to put all my eggs in one basket" argument too. Last, but not least: my battery life is also much better when all of the invasive tracking is blocked :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially when the person carrying the basket like to chuck eggs out of it at random. Never know when google will discontinue a service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with this. I actually feel that the way they have restricted certain advanced search strings on the search engine is the most criminal of all. To me, watering down search results on a product that was previously excellent, is manipulation and control of information and thus, restricts people actual life. They are an extremely sly company and the control goes all the way to the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What are examples of advanced search strings they're restricting? I haven't heard of this. Do other search engines restrict them?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It started as a privacy thing but as I dug deeper, I found that all of the foss alternatives I found were simply much better in terms of functionality & usability

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, privacy on the Internet was something I wanted for a long time, but was too lazy to do. The decisive moment for me was the story with Reddit, at the same time YouTube goes against adblockers, Twitter goes down and Google develops technology to determine with which browser I visit websites.

Lemmy quickly intrigued me, and privacy is a big deal here. I don't want my digital life to be controlled by mega-corporations, so I'm gradually getting out. I'm slowly working my way through https://www.privacyguides.org/ and https://www.privacytools.io/ and hope to be done by the end of the year.

So far I have managed to

  • Set up Pihole
  • Set up Bitwarden
  • Set up New email address
  • I am using SearXNG
  • Librefox for PC and Icedraven for Android are downloaded and will be used soon.

Next phone will be a Pixel, so I can use GrapheneOS.

So to answer your question, yes mostly privacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
  • Lack of privacy
  • Arbitrary cancel culture with no recourse
  • Corruption and bloating of open standards like web
  • Non consensual logins (android, chrome)
  • Sabotage of federated services (email, xmpp)
  • Suggestion of new tracking methods (like FLoC) when old tracking methods (like 3rd party cookies) are phased out
  • Centralization of information flow (eg: AMP)
  • Bait and switch tactics (like YouTube ads)
  • Support for horrible laws (like illegitimate DMCA strikes)
  • Locking down devices (with remote attestation, safetynet api, etc)
  • Geolocking apps unnecessarily
  • Invasive use of credit card information to prove location (why not just use GPS or cell info?)
  • Incompatibility with open standards to achieve user lockins (eg: IMAP, caldav, carddav)
  • Riding the open source wave with projects that don't behave like one (AOSP, chromium)
  • Untrustworthiness when it comes to long term presence of services
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No i hate google as well.

Seriously, Fuk google 😡

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Another reason I'm doing it is I know they will just shut it down soon anyways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I also want to avoid being too dependent on Google's service and then get locked behind a paywall or something. One never knows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I control the distribution of power in the tech world. I am God.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, yes. It's the thing that drives me, but as I get on, the more I dislike the company and would be happy if they failed for being shit privacy wise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Control over your whole experience

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't but if I did, it would be a speed or battery thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It was secondary to challenging big tech corporations and their abuses to the Global South.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Privacy and debloating, mostly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Besides, even use less my phone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Privacy and Google's ToS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Simplifies things. I don't want all that proprietary bloat and features shoved into my phone. I want to simplify it. When roms base themselves off of AOSP you tend to go down to the essentials, which is really all you need. Then if you need that extra stuff, you can build up from there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s the main reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Privacy mainly but to also get away from centralized platforms like youtube.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Ads. I am not interested in content that paid the most for Ads. I'm looking for content that exists not to make money for the website, or the person creating that content. So given those things, Google provides negative value to me.