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Sync Ultra is a very reasonable $17 a YEAR. YouTube Premium is reaching that per MONTH. I have sync downloaded and it was the first thing I did. Thanks lj for the beautiful app.

[EDIT: That was a poor comparison, as pointed out in the comments. Leaving it for discussion sake.

There are many counterpoints and actually good discussion happening down below. Even if you don't agree, thanks for showing me a different perspective!

If you want to support Sync, make sure to support the Lemmy Devs and your instance holders as well!

*This post was made early in the day before the update added the OTP option.]

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[โ€“] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago (16 children)

First thing I did after opening the app was to look for the Pro (ultra) in-app purchase. But monhtly payments, no thank you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

Yea, I would gladly pay to remove ads. Like I already did for the Sync for Reddit. Twice. But no one likes subscriptions.

[โ€“] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Same here. I hate subscriptions but would happily buy a Pro version like I did with Sync for Reddit.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Since we're doing meaningless comparisons:

Am I doing that right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Oh, but Adobe charges the very reasonable $600/yr and Autodesk a bargain $3000+ per year for their software, so clearly Sync must not be that good to only be asking $17 a year. I think I'll look for something more professionally priced, instead.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (21 children)

As someone from a third world country, fuck no. That shit is too expensive for me. Maybe to you privileged folk it's reasonable. To me it's nonsense.

I feel shitty about it too since I was a long time sync pro user, I thought sync for lemmy would also have an affordable pro version but fuck me I guess

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[โ€“] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Give me a one-time purchase of like $10-15 and I will, but I don't do (non-voluntary) subs.

I don't need any of the push notification services.

Edit: Added within hours. Immediately got it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember going for the largest OTP for Sync quite happily. Might have been ยฃ30 or something. Subscription? Nah.

Edit: Looks like the remove ads OTP option has been added so I've hopped onto that.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yep. As stupid as is sounds, I would pay even higher for a one off purchase.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

fuck subs...onetime payment every time, but I won't pay a sub for an app for a service that is free...

I donate to the lemmy instances, but not an app!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sync for Reddit Pro was 2.99โ‚ฌ... I was expecting that much or up to 5โ‚ฌ for Sync for Lemmy... But these prices are just ridiculous. As much as I like Sync I just can't justify this kind of pricing when there are so many free alternatives without ads and tracking.

Right now I'm using Sync and it's really nice but it's not that much better than Jerboa for my use case.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Hate subscription based models. I wouldnt mind paying one-off but until then sorry sync , I am FOSSing

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[โ€“] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Don't really care about any ultra features. Once one-time-pay ad removal is there, I'm getting it. Just like I had Sync Pro and Sync Ultra (if those aren't reinstated even). I will not do subscriptions.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Fuck off.

Im not paying you to remove the Ads that you injected into an addless service. Theres a half dozen other Lemmy apps already that dont pull this bullshit. And honestly synch doesnt do anything those apps dont. So other than being a mindless consumer or someone whose easily influenced by these vote manipulation shill posts, why the actual fuck would I spend money on it?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Lots of entitlement here...

Saying someone makes enough in their day job so all their other contributions should be free is...wow.

I guess I'm one of the few that thinks all work should be compensated. Especially work I can't do myself or that I prefer over others.

And really, it's not up to me to say what that compensation should be. It's only my job to decide if the offer is acceptable to me for what I perceive is the benefit over other options.

Because there are other options. But I'm here because I don't want the other options. I would guess many others are, too.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't buy YouTube Premium either and they have significant hosting costs compared to the this app. So do the Lemmy server owners as well.

I think the dev deserves compensation for their app but the asking price is too much, for me anyway.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I'm not comfortable with a subscription model, sorry. I will happily pay for a one-time fee. For the use I do of Lemmy I'll pay up to โ‚ฌ5. If they want to release a new version of the app in, say, 2-3 years down the line and ask for a new fee, I'm fine too.

I'll wait until Boost releases (it was my default Reddit app) and will choose between Sync, Boost, Summit, and Infinity paid versions.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Prices are ridiculous, especially for returning users. The Lemmy app is basically the Reddit app. You can't convince me that at least 85% of the code was re-used from it. If you used the code from the app I already paid for (twice) I feel like I should get a discount.

Subscription models suck too.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would start by donating to your home instance, first and foremost.

But yeah if you love the all you're using, whichever it is, donate to its devs, too

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The app is amazing and I'm not against the Dev just because of what they are charging. They can charge whatever they want, if there is a market willing to pay it's fine.

But 115โ‚ฌ lifetime is like 10-20 times more than the price I would pay. So as a consumer I'll just stay with the free version or another Lemmy app.

As a former infinity user, "Infinity for Lemmy" is the one I'm waiting for. I'm also interested in trying Voyager android app once it is released.

Now this "sync for Lemmy" app looks very well probably the best Lemmy app at the moment. Only thing is lacking for me (so far) is to have community icons in the small cards post layout. (So I can identify what's the topic is about before reading the title).

For the text size I changed base text to Medium and then I changed the specific description and comment relative text size to "Regular". This gives me the same text size as Infinity, at least in the comments.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I don't need the ultra features. I didn't even need the pro features. I bought Sync pro for Reddit as a "thank you" to the author. A subscription is a bit different. I would be more willing to spend a couple bucks on each feature release than a subscription.

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

YouTube Premium pays for Youtube itself and provides a higher payout to the content creators you watch. If you actually want to support the people you watch on Youtube Premium is the best option for that, premium views pay out sometimes 10x as much as ad revenue on videos. It's the best way to have a good experience and support the people you watch outside of giving them money directly.

Meanwhile, this is like paying some 3rd party website to scrape Youtube and make sure the people you watch don't see a penny. Since presumably if one of the servers like Lemmy.World breaks down and adds ad's to offset the astronomical server fees and growth, Sync would block them, if not they are doing a disservice to people who bought ad free.

[โ€“] Rossel 17 points 1 year ago

This is paying to the creator of the app, who works on this app full time, unlike most devs whose Lemmy apps are side projects.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I despise recurring fees, so no. $17 sounds good for a 1-time fee though.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I moved to Lemmy because Sync was announced that's where they were going, but I'm not going to pay a monthly subscription for an app. I expected a reasonable one time payment like I had on Sync for Reddit. If that's not an option then I'll have to figure something else out

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're comparing a service that stores a gajillion gajillions of petabytes to sync?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No regional pricing.

I would never pay more then 10$ for a full game i could play for hundreds of hours, let alone 20$ to remove black rectangles from a free app.

sync ultra is just stupidly expensive, I'm not even talking about it, just the permanent ad removal option.

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I think the main issue is we don't know where Lemmy is one year from now. I have already started to see a decline in my usage because there simply isn't enough content. /c/football is virtually dead it feels like and it (or rather /r/soccer) was my number one subreddit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe if it is better than boost's implementation. But at that price, especially on such a young platform, I'm certainly only buying one.

Sync might be in trouble if boost costs less while being on par with its previous reddit counterpart.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll put my money where my mouth is just like last time if they give a one time option to remove ads. I don't the extra stuff and don't want another subscription.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The test of reasonableness is different for everyone.

I have no interest in cloud backup, or any other feature that incurs a cost to the dev. So why would I pay a subscription fee to "cover" those features?

If I like the app after sustained use, I might be willing to pay a one-time $8-$12 fee to remove ads/thank the dev/buy them a coffee

But I have zero interest in an ongoing subscription at this stage. There's just not enough value for me in spending that sort of money.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Would rather donate my time or money to FOSS like Thunder. Service models aren't the way for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to say it's unreasonably priced, but that comparison with YouTube is not really fair. Delivering video content is an incredibly expensive service

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[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My personal limit is one time 10$, those other optons are simply too much.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is there not going to be a lifetime pro (one-time purchase) option?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Am I the only one who thinks that sync pro for reddit subscribers should have their one time purchase be honored/restored?

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[โ€“] Hoops_McCann 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went ahead and bought a year because I want to support this project. I am hoping by the time that's due to expire, there will be non-subscription options

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