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I'm a parent We're not going to Disney it's a fuckin rip off. If you feel you're a bad parent because you didn't bring your kid to Disney seek therapy.
To a little kid, it's a whole different perspective. Peer pressure is an ugly thing. Your kid can feel ashamed or insecure just because their friends goes to Disney and they're not.
Make sure they understand that too, not just yourself.
It's a good opportunity to teach your kid about peer pressure then, and how they don't need to do everything their friends do.
100% agree. It's marketed way too well to kids.
My cousin's didn't understand what Disney had that was different from other parks nearby, but "knew" it was some amazing perfect fun place filled with adventure. You get there and stand in line most of the time watching people with more money pass you by riding the rides.
And parents can do this by teaching their kids about their actual money. Show them. Kids are smarter than people give credit and people shouldn't discredit this.
Or they can be assholes like my parents and endlessly gloat about their so-called success and prowess with money and tell me how I need to be a success and be smarter about money ...... BUT they also were secretive about their finances and never taught me anything of value. Those were a fun first couple years of adulthood.
Having been a little kid once, I literally never felt any urge or need to go to Disney land/world and was never once bullied or pressured to go.
This is a made-up issue.
Ffs, I went to Taiwan earlier this year for a little over a week for like $2k total, plane tickets from the US and everything (granted we stayed in some pretty sketchy hotels but it isn't like the fancy ones were that bank-breaking). I don't understand why people are putting their livelihoods at risk for a corporate hellscape instead of hopping to another country for a bit and seeing all the world has for us
- Traveling with children to foreign countries is a lot harder than with adults
- Entirely honestly some people have little to no desire to leave the US. I don’t think you could pay me to spend a week in east Asia, that’s just not my idea of fun.
- Disney is huge. There’s days worth of things to do, multiple parks and experiences directly marketed for kids (be that good or bad). You don’t even have to stay in the Disney ecosystem with places like legoland, universal studios and a bunch of other theme parks.
Just to add a perspective, I wouldn't take my kids there if it was free.
But other kids do, and you don't want to show how poor you are, so you have to go. So take a loan, smile and go. /J
And fucking of course the kids can't go during summer vacation because that would cost too much so it has to be during the school year. And heaven fucking forbid they bring a bit of school work with them because "we are on vacation". Can't go to the amusement park forty minutes away because "it's not the same". Can't go to the beach ten minutes away because "the beaches in Florida are different". Can't just do a three day weekend when the kids are off school and rent a cabin because"we have to go with our friends".
Entire fucking life is cleaning up or paying for vacations. Vacations that are money pits and boring as shit.
What the hell is the point? It is just having the kids watching tablets in hotels, or melting in lines, or all the other tiny shit that sucks about flying.
I am fine. I don't need to spend thousands of dollars escaping from my life.
I have a friend who goes with their husband and kiddo who spends the entire year seeking out the cheapest ways to go and it literally takes months but saves them $8k off normal pricing. That still leaves them needing $7k for the week vacation. I couldn't even imagine caring that much about something. I wouldn't mind going but the absolute most I'd spend if $2k for the entire stay which will never happen since the flights alone would be that for me and my family.
There are so many better ways to spend 7k on your kids then Disney. Hell, just go to a closer theme park if you really want to go on rides.
That's US dollars right? How on Earth does it cost 7 grand to go. It definitely didn't cost that much in 2018 when I last went.
Not crazy for a vacation with flights and a hotel involved for 4 people for 7 days.
- $2k on flight's
- $2k for hotel (and a few cabs)
- $1k for food
That’s $5k before any tickets to the park.
I've been to Disney in Orlando dozens of times growing up. Haven't been there for 10 years or so....so took a few days and went to the park.
Wow, sooooo many people, like sooooo many people you can't walk down the paths without doing the New York shoulder to get through. I didn't know about the phone thing.... It's a new smartphone system where you reserve spots in rides at certain times, but all reservations are gone 5 min after opening time for the app. The entire park was filled with people staring at their phones trying to get in on a canceled reservation. Well I didn't know about this....so I was in the stand by lines. 1 to 2 hours per ride and a non stop stream of fast pass people kept walking right in. The New Tron ride was fast pass only.
All day there and I think we got on 4 rides. Peter Pan standby was 3 hours long.
For all the money paid to get in, the crowds, the stupid new smartphone thing.... I will never go back to Disney. Let the stupid international tourists have it.
Cape Canaveral visitor center was sooo much better.
The crowds vary wildly at Disney World. First time I went with my kids we did the first week of November. Not many people at all, and we could get on a lot of rides without much of a wait and it wasn't too crowded. Bonus: We got to see the Halloween decorations the first day we were there, and then Christmas decorations for the rest of the time. 10/10, would go again.
The second time we decided to do a Christmas trip. There were two days where Magic Kingdom literally told people there wasn't enough room. Even Epcot and Hollywood Studios were crowded, and we didn't get on many rides. The hotels were loud, too. 1/10 would not recommend.
However, I haven't bothered looking at prices because my kids are grown and I'm happy being at home, but if I had to pay 50% more for the first experience it would have been worth it, and the second I wouldn't have taken even if it was free.
"Morons that are bad with their money continue to act like morons"
This is one that I’m on the fence. To me it kinda feels like less advantaged people are finally playing the same game as rich folk. I don’t think it’s smart to go in debt over a vacation, unfortunately people do it all the time.
I mean, if you have no possible way of paying any of this back, might as well have fun before the house of cards collapses.
The govt is in massive debt. Tesla and many corporations are running a loss. Heck my city and school district is running this year with multi million dollar short falls, but somehow the city keeps spending money. The system is set up to run in debt. Everyone that has money, even billionaires, borrows money. I’m considered middle class, but am in massive debt because I bought a house and a car.
It kinda feels like regular people are finally playing the same game as rich people. Why use, and lose, your money, when you can lose other people money instead? What are creditors going to do? Take away the fun experience I had at Disneyland?
They can’t get me to pay back the debt if I have no job, or any future prospects for a job. Might as well have fun while they can, I guess.
I just feel for these folks when the rich, in the US, bribe enough politicians to brings back debtors prisons.
The place is crowded and they'll keep charging more pushing out lower income people.
When we used to go they had a meal plan, a bus to bring you from the airport for free and the little NFC watch was free to make all you purchases. I think it cost twice as much now and you get less.
FUCK Disney
Wouldn't be an issue if people got paid properly for their work..enjoy the debt banks. It's going to hit you the worst.
Wouldn’t be an issue if people got paid properly for their work
This is one place where that actually wouldn't fix this problem. There is finite capacity at the parks. Disney keep raising the prices as a a disincentive to go. People keep paying the higher prices. source
If everyone was paid properly, that would mean even more people going to the parks.
Jimmy! Just for you Jimmy! Just for you were taking on a second mortgage! You deserve the Walt Disnay experience Jimmy! Were not good parents unless you see Mickey In person Jimmy.
Are you hearing us Jimmy it's important you know the Disnay experience!!
What's that you just want to play Minecraft Jimmy? You failed abortion of a kid! You are going to see Disney world if I have to sell my fucking Kidneys, I swear to god!
Jimmy it's gunna be rice and beans for a bit, You'll understand when you're our age.
Sorry Jimmy I know you thought you were to inherite this home, but remember that Disney trip we took when you were two. No, well no matter we have pictures we haven't look at in 30 years. But the bank owns this house so you'll still need pay the mortgage when we are gone.
Saw a kid puke in the pool once on a Disney cruise. You shoulda seen those cast members come running in full hazmat suits and shut down the entire deck! A finely tuned machine, like swappin tires at the Indy 500. If Disney ever got into the military-industrial complex they would take over the world. Worth every penny.
Now I want to go there just to puke in different areas and see how the cleaning team works
I took my kids in lieu of them having birthday parties one year. We told the person when we checked in and they gave us a few stickers that said "It's my birthday!"
Everyone in every park who saw that sticker stopped and wished my kids a happy birthday. The guy sweeping up trash on Hollywood Boulevard, the cashiers at Epcot, the housekeepers at the hotel, everyone. Even Cinderella stopped marching in the Main Street parade to come over and say "Happy Birthday!"
I get that they're a horrible, soulless corporation but damn do I appreciate how special they made my kids feel.
I feel bad for the parents because I bet so many of them are unaware of the totally greedy changes Disney has put in these last 5 years. Their parents took them to Disneyland so they just do the same for their own kids.
Anyway, they monetized their "fast pass" system in a way that they have an economic incentive to keep lines long. - despite everyone having smartphones, and despite Disney already having a park app for people to use. I won't be visiting while that's in effect, that's for sure.
To be fair, you could stop that sentence after the word “debt”.
I'd like to go there, but flight + 10 days of hotel+park+food is something like 12-15k$, insane.
Why would people pay to go to a to a corporate soulless pseudo amusement parrk?
The only reason I ever took my kid to Disneyland was because we lived in southern California and knew somebody who worked there that gave us free passes.
It was a great day that my now adult daughter doesn't remember at all.
I loved my own childhood trip to Disneyland in 1979 when it was a much, much simpler and cheaper affair.
If I had kids today, Disney would be completely off the table.
Disneyland has never been worth the money.
Tf is a disney vacation? Is this the onion?
There are 4 theme parks and 2 shopping/eating areas in Florida alone and over a dozen resorts. You can book a whole weeks vacation, do something different each day, and never leave Disney's property.