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This is at JFK, does anyone know what they are used for? There wasn’t an obvious time when it was taking a picture.

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[–] CaptDust 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

This is an ICM Self Check In Kiosk, which features a "passenger feedback camera" and offers "a single token end to end processing experience".

Basically exactly what you think it is, an advanced biometric system for reading your face. I don't think airports have it activated yet, but maybe one day you'll be able to check in without scanning a boarding pass or passport for the low price of your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

You're in an airport. You don't have privacy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Some like these are active at Bogotá's airport, in Colombia. The kiosk screen asks you to look straight at the camera placing your feet on specific spots in front of the kiosk for alignment. Then it shows how it is comparing your face with the picture on the passport.

It is really creepy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've used one of those before at an airport and it worked exactly as you say. I think it was just for boarding though. I just walked forward and when I got to the front, they greeted me by name and I got on the plane. I don't remember having to show my passport or boarding pass that time either (but it was last year so I may have forgotten).

[–] CaptDust 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since it needs a source to compare against, I'm curious where they captured your face info

[–] prayer 9 points 5 months ago

TSA uses driver's license info

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I used something like that with Global Entry at LAX.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Looks a lot like my 3d scanner / Like an Xbox Kinect / Apple Face ID. On a ticket machine That’s just creepy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

yep, structured images are projected, then left right cameras capture images, the device compares the differences in each image and can use that to build a rough 3d model of the face. I strongly suspect these are used to make sure people aren't using printed images to spoof the verification - but never put it past the state to horde data and hoover up everything they can.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Often these are used for liveness detection, to make sure it's a real person's face and not a picture.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There was a camera kinda like that on each seat back on my recent transpacific flight. Creepy to sit behind that for 17 hours.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which airline? I'm never flying with them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The United Airlines who, coincidentally, are planning to start showing personalised ads on seatback screens?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Camera covering tape needs to become an essential EDC item.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

they are used to be creepy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The nexus machines in several airports have scanners like this and I can just walk up to it, look at it, and keep walking. No giving it my ID or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, it was like a boarding pass printing machine though, which seems like a weird use. You still had to get the pass scanned later.