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[–] nkat2112 81 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This part is notable:

Briefed on the Pentagon’s secret anti-vax campaign by Reuters, some American public health experts also condemned the program, saying it put civilians in jeopardy for potential geopolitical gain. An operation meant to win hearts and minds endangered lives, they said.

“I don’t think it’s defensible,” said Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Dartmouth’s Geisel School of Medicine. “I’m extremely dismayed, disappointed and disillusioned to hear that the U.S. government would do that,” said Lucey, a former military physician who assisted in the response to the 2001 anthrax attacks.

The effort to stoke fear about Chinese inoculations risked undermining overall public trust in government health initiatives, including U.S.-made vaccines that became available later, Lucey and others said. Although the Chinese vaccines were found to be less effective than the American-led shots by Pfizer and Moderna, all were approved by the World Health Organization. Sinovac did not respond to a Reuters request for comment.

It's truly indefensible to see this kind of behavior that can kill people for geopolitical gain. And now, when we complain about foreign meddling, we can rightfully be reminded of what our side did to others...

The cruelty aside, I am also amazed by the shortsightedness of such tactics. This was an obviously failed strategy from the start. (And imaging the ignorance of assuming it would not be leaked...)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

And now, when we complain about foreign meddling, we can rightfully be reminded of what our side did to others...

Oh, you haven't heard? Bringing up any comparison with anything is now whataboutism, and means you're actually Russian.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The CIA literally ran a fake vaccine program to catch Bin Laden. The vaccine hesitancy is coming from inside the house!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't judge any member of a minority that doesn't trust a US run medical progam anymore as their concerns are valid based on facts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

It's in the past bro. It's not like the government would let corporations get away with a chemical weapons attack on a civilian population nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is so huge. And I'll be shocked if this makes it to the nightly / cable news outlets. We have more important things to worry about; like if someone lied about doing drugs in order to get a gun.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

America is an incredibly evil country that has done considerable harm to the world in its brief existence.

[–] crazyCat 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Holy crap that’s terrible USA, wtf big time guys, what the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i'm so tired of governments doing shit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And they used US corporate social media platforms to do it. Of course they fucking did.

All the “Russian bots & trolls” bullshit was projection of the skulduggery the US is up to around the world all the time.

And now they’re accusing China of doing similar via TikTok, which is more of the same projection & lies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia

That was Bill Barr's summary of the Mueller Report. The news article you posted was written with zero knowledge of the actual report. When the actual report was released later, the summary was criticized as trying to form a false narrative that intentionally omitted important pieces of the report. He was spinning it to provide cover for his boss, in effect. Much of this rested on Mueller not declaring Trump guilty of a crime, but as was described in the report, this was always considered to be outside of the scope of Mueller's appointment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm eager to hear about the anti-vax campaign the pentagon pushed in their own country.

[–] emergencyfood 14 points 5 months ago

I have a low opinion of militaries in general, but killing thousands of people to make your opponent look bad is a new low.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's worth looking at the timeline here. The Trump Administration had no problem doing something that was obviously immoral. It got canceled by the Biden Administration and an investigation started. Just noting the timeline because I still see people saying there's no difference between the two politicians.

[–] MarcoPOLO 3 points 5 months ago

Does make you ask the question what other Western talking points are China are psyopped propaganda, though...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I have yet to see someone say there is no difference. I see plenty of people who rightfully say both are shit.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

so shall we assume that convicted felon drumpf was, at the very least, informed of this operation between truckoads of "hamburders"?

shall we also asume that anti-vaxers everywhere will eschew their murderous complicity in what was clearly "gubbermunt propaganda to control our freedumbs"?

The U.S. military is prohibited from targeting Americans with propaganda, and Reuters found no evidence the Pentagon’s influence operation did so.

yeah, and I have some beachfront property in Florida to sell you. quick sale required.

fscking hell, man.