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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are often talks of carbon taxing, but removing subsidies would seen to be the obvious first step. Subdiside greener options instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Removing and reducing subsidies also generally has better polling as well from what I've seen

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you think so? From the people I know I think cutting meat and fossil fuel subsidises would be very unpopular. We have climbing food prices so if meat became more expensive I think there might be uproar - it's needed though!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently looking back, it's harder to find some of that polling that I remember reading. It depends on where in the world you are, but here's some polling showing support for removing or reducing some of the animal agriculture subsidies

A new survey has found that 78 percent of Americans want federal farm funding to prioritize food for people over feed for livestock.

https://thehill.com/policy/equilibrium-sustainability/3841276-americans-want-farm-subsidies-to-go-to-human-food-not-animal-feed-survey/


For fossil fuel subsidies, apparently much more polling exists for carbon taxes, so it was actually difficult to find them

https://www.filesforprogress.org/datasets/2021/8/dfp_ending_fossil_fuel_subsidies.pdf

Though in looking back for some of these sources, I did find an interesting study for fossil fuels subsidies showing that the polling for carbon taxes and subsidies was pretty similar in 5 developing countries (Ecuador, Egypt, India, Indonesia and Mexico) with support varying on more of what the money was put towards instead.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01597-5#Sec5

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the links and it is somewhat heartening to read the support for such things!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Throw in the trucking industry and the autoindustry for good measure. SUVs and big trucks have caused car fatalities to skyrocket.

[–] WheeGeetheCat 2 points 1 year ago

because its tradition!

[–] 9999monkeys 1 points 1 year ago

because nobody is protesting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because we need to help the shareholders!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

because their lobbys pay lawmakers more!

In capitalism, the people with money make or influence the laws.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Because if fuel/milk/meat doubled or tripled in price, and the average member of the developed world would riot, and the guys in charge like being in charge. To the terminally online people, you are not the average. Just because you have a diet that gurgles gonads, or don't have to drive a lot for your work, doesn't mean the rest also don't have to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because people view their products as necessities to everyday life. People want to eat meat and and (real) no matter what.

If without subsidies it becomes cheaper to import these types of foods, it becomes a national security issue.

Plus without subsidies this stuff gets more expensive, so people will start complaining

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

TIL people also eat (real) fossil fuels

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