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[–] [email protected] 260 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Terrorism: The unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

But I thought terrorists were only non-white non-Christians? I’m getting a MAGA migraine wrapping my head around your comment. /s

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That's the lesser form of a MAGA reign.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

No, I’m sure that’s right. They made a number of prime time tv shows proving it. /s

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They want to make sure that the next jury thinks twice about convicting. Truly chilling and completely unsurprising after Trump has been stoking them with lies every day.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This was America's first and closest foray into fascist takeover, the same exact way that other democracies have fallen this last century or longer.

Just because it was really dumb this time, and in the end the guilty party was actually found guilty by the law, we are nowhere close to out of danger on this front.

Trump will be dead in a few short years and we're all going to stop talking about him, this is assured, and in that huge, gaping power vacuum with millions of followers ripe for the plucking, they're going to be coerced by some new figure and led to the exact same ideas about burning the country to the ground just so they have a leader who "hurts the right people." And this new leader of the vulnerable masses might not be so dumb or so wildly delusional and may actually succeed at the same exact plan.

Get more involved in your local politics people, state, county, city and community elections are what prop up fascists in the upper reaches. Know who is actually representing you.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would, and think it was a good idea both times.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have basic amenities, I have a home, I have people who love me and would miss me, but what I don't have in life is satisfaction that I've done the right thing and contributed more to society than I took away.

Convicting Trump every single opportunity would give me the greatest joy I could ever achieve. Every rude phone call or thrown brick would fill me with happiness that I've wounded the great dying beast that we have been battling for hundreds of years in this nation.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I could hear some guys in my neighborhood outside yesterday talking about how this won't effect the election. One of them yelled out "Well at least the republicans are the ones with the guns!" Everyone just kinda got quiet and looked at him like he was an idiot.

Remember he's not the only dangerous one. Every vote counts, and all of them are voting red.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

My maga friend told me to stock up on food come November. Dude is fucking brainwashed by beanie man Tim Poole

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I worked with a guy who was appalled that I was buying go fast parts for my car instead of stocking up on guns and ammo for the upcoming war. He also had his neighborhood mapped out as to who are the democrats so he knows who to go after first. I asked him if he thought democrats don't have guns too and he just stared at me. After a bit he just changed the subject to a racist rant about rap music.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry... But this seems like a guy to report

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should report him to the FBI and your work. The statement is enough to probably get him fired and with luck his gun horde will be illegal when the FBI comes knocking

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He's gone (thankfully), and a few of the guys I work with did report him. I'm just waiting to see him on the news and all the people saying how they never saw it coming "he was such a nice guy".

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

For the longest time I thought this was solely a matter of education; but these days, I'm beginning to think such right-wing extremism is also a matter of mental illness.

Things like poor parenting, brain injuries from football, lead exposure from guns and motorsports, substance abuse, shitty diets, etc. -- all culminate in a banner of people who are... Not of sound mind.

Saying this as a former rural Appalachian Republican from decades ago.

Edit: added "solely" for some clarification.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Its just people miserable with their lot in life and that hate themselves, and wanting to blame someone else for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree that a lot is mental illness but I think it's more education. They fall for the lies and get in line and do what they're told to do by sources like fox "news". It's scary how it's changed, I had Republican friends that we could all hang out and even discuss politics with no problems. Now, we don't talk at all, there is no discussion. I am the enemy and I don't even care about politics, just be a good human. I don't think you can be a good human and support the Republicans at this time, it's gone off the rails.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're likely right that education is still the prevailing issue, but I think we need to get more specific on what kind of education people receive in terms of safeguarding against false rhetoric. Drilling in the logical fallacies, teaching ethics, and even teaching common propaganda techniques so you can identify them. We need to step back and ask ourselves how we managed to escape the rabbit hole when others could not.

The echo-chambers have become so ironclad that it's so difficult to pierce through and drag someone out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That's a good point. I would say having empathy and being a critical thinker would be a good start to escaping the rabbit hole.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

They really love to change subjects a lot don’t they

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every fuckin time there is any large political story that doesn't involve Trump being fellated, Tim Pool makes war-provoking tweets.

Which is wild because this is a dude who wouldn't survive five minutes in a conflict.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

One of them yelled out “Well at least the republicans are the ones with the guns!”

Having grown up out in the boonies in a deeply conservative area and with deeply conservative parents, this kind of rhetoric is just like their fuckin bird calls to each other, they spout this machismo constantly about everything. If a redneck gets looked at weird for saying this, that's a freak occurrence because these folks number in the millions.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Def not a repug but i do have a couple guns...for varmints

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Are these those white ones I have around me? The ones that are out here tend to be pretty white around the head and neck, usually have a bright splash of red starting at the shoulders and moving down the back. I know mine can be big fuckers, some are pushing 300lbs. I have to get the tractor for those.

Lucky they aren't very fast, but you really got to carefully, they tend to run in packs.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its already too late for them. The idea would be to scare future jurors. Its not like hell only face one jury.

Anyone calling for doxxing should be tracked down and arrested like the terrorist they are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cannot extra precautions be taken such as the jury connecting via video-conferencing from another room, with only the judge being able to see the screen?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Then they get a judge like Cannon.

The problem is that the system also is of two minds on whether he's above the law. Shit's broken, and not because they can't fix it. If this happened in e.g. Germany, Trump would already be behind bars (long before he'd have run for pres in the first place), and GSG9 would be looking for people terrorizing juries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

For jurors, seeing the defendant and witnesses live in person is part of the process. They assess body language as well as other things. Video link is helpful as a back up in certaain cases, eg for kids or victims of sexual assault who may be uncomfortable being in the room with their alleged attacker.

Isn’t it wild that it’s even considered dangerous to be a juror for an ex president. Yet some of his non violent followers still dont appreciate how damaging he is for democracy.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That is some good Christian behavior

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

You mean the group that burnt down the Serapeum of Alexandria, and gouged out the eyes of Hypatia with seashells?

Yeah, this really seems a step too far for those guys.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time to throw Ronald McDonald in prison.

FFS, stop letting him get away with everything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Ronald has a white face though. He also has a charity, too.

He's more of the anthropomorphized annoying orange, but with a following of racist rednecks

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

isn’t this something else that is illegal? It’s so irresponsible for Trump and GOP to constantly use bullying tactics to silence people. If something happens, Trump and GOP are responsible. These people have become full on terrorists

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It'll only get worse if he is elected again

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He'll make sure he never leaves and picks his successor. It will literally be game over

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At what point does this sort of thing stop being politics and start being organized crime? So now I halfway-hope the vigilantes that try to do this will end up facing criminal charges for it

But, I also halfway-expect cops and prosecutors to look the other way if the victims of this kind of crime ends up being the kind of people they'd be disproportionately policing and convicting anyhow

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

It literally already passed that point. The headline details the elements of a crime.

[–] xmunk 24 points 2 months ago

Gosh, I hope they were instructed not to carry cellphones into the courtroom.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh sure they are all for due process up until this.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Miserable”.

Only takes one extremist in the bunch to do choose to do something violent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but all of the people who are trying to hound juries are, in fact, extremists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Yup this is about what I expected.

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