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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/12739856

Apple limits third-party browser engine work to EU devices

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Really shows that EU hit them where it hurts, when they refuse to do the same other places.

Only good for consumers when forced by law.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, and Google does the same shit.

On Pixel phones you have the search bar at the bottom, which you cannot remove, replace, resize, or configure.

In the EU you can configure it to change your default search engine. In North America you cannot, and are forced to use Google.

And on Google forums anyone who complains gets attacked by a wave of simps saying "Then just don't buy a pixel then, go somewhere else if you don't like it".

So tired of this shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

At least third party launchers are a thing on Android.

Though that isn't an excuse for Google's behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

I hope my country will push in the same direction as the EU, the restrictions are ridiculous.

[–] Bronzie 35 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I really hope Firefox makes one. I miss not having uBlock an d some other addons on my tablet.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For adblocking, You can get Content blockers from the app store that you enable in the settings, Personally I use Adguard Pro. I've also got an Extension that makes websites Dark mode called 'Noir', You can adjust settings global/per site if they dont look good.

Extensions/Content blockers are limited to Safari (to my knowledge).

[–] Bronzie 3 points 6 months ago

Cheers, I did not know this!

[–] kinkles 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can use AdGuard’s DNS to block ads system-wide. You don’t need to install any app.

https://adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html

Just scroll down to method 2 and download the profile from the iOS section. You’ll need to be using Safari for the download to work properly. Then if you ever need to disable it the setting is in Settings > General > VPN & Device Management

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is there a benefit of doing this vs using their app with the dns in native mode?

[–] kinkles 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you use the app then you have to pay for their subscription to use DNS features. If you don’t pay then you’re really just limited to adblocking in Safari. The profile I linked is free and will work for all apps. It’s not as robust or customizable as the AdGuard app, sure, but I’ve never had any real issues or need for anything more. Plus it’s one less app to have installed.

It’s personal preference mostly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It actually is a detriment because the app also download and apply quite a few filter lists that can block annoyances like website cookie policies, and way more ad categories that a simple DNS filter cannot address, and other shit like Javascript bitcoin miners

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Orion on iOS is a web browser compatible with most of firefox extentions! I use it everyday and I’m happy with it :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Probably just Safari

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Allegedly, this ws predicted to happen for years and both Mozilla and Google have been testing their browsers on iOS for years.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Kids will be kids. FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple's designation under Europe's Digital Markets Act (DMA) as a gatekeeper for the App Store, iOS, Safari, and just recently iPadOS forced Cupertino to make concessions.

Parisa Tabriz, VP of engineering and general manager of Chrome at Google, dismissed Apple's rule changes earlier this year.

When Apple announced its plan to make changes in response to DMA in January, developers expressed concern that supporting a separate EU browser might be a problem.

"The contract terms are bonkers and almost no vendor I'm aware of will agree to them," lamented one industry veteran familiar with the making of browsers in response to an inquiry from The Register.

In March, the European Commission opened an investigation into Apple based on concerns that Cupertino's "steering" rules and browser choice screen fell short of DMA requirements.

Asked about Apple's geofencing of devices for development, an Opera spokesperson replied that it hadn't heard about the issue – but that's not surprising given that the organization is headquartered in the EU.


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