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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At my work, we have P1 and P2 tickets. Ideally you get them all done in a week, but you're only supposed to have 3 days worth of P1 tickets, so it's required to have all the P1s done.

It worked really well for a few weeks. Then the PM started putting 4, 5, I even had one week where I had 9 days worth of P1 tickets assigned.

I'm growing very tired of this company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are P1/P2 designations? If so, how in the world can those be correlated to time/workload?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They have a priority + estimated number of hours

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess it makes somewhat intuitive sense. When I give an estimate, I'm probably more like to say "it'll take 2 weeks. Maybe less, maybe more" and that maybe/maybe is 50%/50%, which suggests that the estimate is the median, not the mean.

I like the thinking. I think looking at task uncertainty is much more useful than task size. Task size can easily be managed by breaking it up. Uncertainty can't be managed in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My favorite approach I’ve seen is just units of time -“this task will take a few [days/weeks/months/years]”.

No specific number. Instead, the scale of the task is measured in one of those units and I can give you an estimate but it’s just a guess.

If it’s task that might take “a few days”, it could be done tomorrow or it could take 5 days. If it’s one that takes “a few weeks”, it might be done next week or maybe next month.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Breaking larger tasks down effectively removes uncertainty.

My general rule of thumb in planning is that any task that is estimated for longer than 1 day should be broken up.

Longer than one day communicates that the person doing the estimate knows it’s a large task, but not super clear about the details. It also puts a boundary around how long someone waits before trying to re-scope:

A task that was expected to take one week, but ends up going 2x is a slide of a week, but a task that is estimated at one day but takes 3x before re-scope is a loss of 2 days.

You can pick up one or two days, but probably not one or two weeks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think that's neat but I doubt a lot of product managers would like that 😅.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to estimating the pessimistic, most likely and optimistic times and apply that to a beta distribution? That's how I was taught back in the dark ages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

agile happend

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