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I've had a 3x3x3 for a few years and so far, I solve it with the beginner method. I watched a J Perm video on the F2L approach and now I'm trying to learn to do that faster. At the moment, I'm still faster going one layer at a time.

If you also started with the beginner method and then learned to use F2L, how long did it take for you to get faster with F2L?

Like I said in another recent post, I'm not looking for a WR. I just want to be as fast as my kid at this point. She learned F2L from the start. :)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only difference between layer by layer and f2l is there is less steps. Your still putting the same 2 pieces in the corner, just hitting them together first.

How long does it take to get faster? Well it's kinda a little bit at a time. I managed to drop 10 seconds in a few months then stopped practicing and now I'm back where I was...

Honestly when I was where you are the greatest revelation was learning sledgehammer. It has so many uses, more than sexy move in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So you have a corner piece with the white facing you over it's correct corner. Sexy move and it's in.

Then you find the corresponding center piece in the top layer (or put it there) and orientate it so the top colour is opposite it's side on the cube. That may mean your corner is front left or right, but either way you do a sexy move and it's set up to put both in pieces in together with a 3 move.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are faster with the layer but layer method because you are used to it and have practiced it a lot. Just keep working at f2l and you will get faster with it before long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. But how long? For you, I mean

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned years ago, so I couldn't tell you. But maybe about the same amount of time that it took me to get decent at layer by layer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cool, cool. That's what I'm hoping for...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This is a necropost but I have just gone through this.

First I learned to do the cross in 8 moves or less.

For the L1 corners and L2 edges, there were so many F2L algorithms I did not end up memorizing them. I learned 3-4 with the intent of memorizing but once I saw how they worked it was easier to figure it out in the fly based on location and orientation of the corner and edge I need.

My solutions are probably not optimal, but I am getting much faster at identifying and executing the F2L moves through practice; it is becoming intuition and muscle memory through repetition. I also started incorporating empty corners into my solves before I got good at “normal” F2L but I’m not sure if that helped me or hurt me. It feels good to save turns and often times I can use that to pull pieces I need to the top.

Eventually I am going to try each F2L algorithm at least once to see if I am missing any clever tricks. I am waiting until I have a better feel for doing it on my own so that I would recognize potential improvements.