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Review bombing taking place.
"CALLING IN AN EAGLE"
THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST! Self-managed democracy
Ah yes, I see you know your Judo well.
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!
Now... Recent Reviews: Mixed
14,397 negative today, 793 positive today.
Update: 42% now... When it hits 40% it will flip to mostly negative
Was the account linking mentionned anywhere on steam?
~~It's really feels like a new condition sneaked in...~~ Edit: apparently it was clearly stated on steam and on the first launch of the game. I really have bad skipping habits...
The "it's to protect players against hakerzzzzz" doesn't feel very legit.
This is absolutely a Sony push to get more data the game was released without the need of having a ps account
How else are they going to make their subscription numbers look like they are going up when no one is buying PS5s?
If you read the announcement, it's obviously a very carefully worded prepared statement from Sony that they've been given and ordered to pass out. The hackers reasoning is made up and just the best excuse they could come up with, Sony wants more data in their environment and they're being forced to comply.
What a dumb move, timing this with trying to convince people to buy the new warbond. Hopefully Sony reverses this decision after seeing how badly this damages the health of the game.
Unfortunately for those requesting refunds, unless you're in an area that's soon to be excluded, you likely won't get your money back. The game has had the requirement for the PSN account linking listed on the Steam page since day 1, so it's unlikely that Valve will do much in this situation.
Arrowhead isn't free of guilt in this, but Sony and Valve should have both done a much better job at making this clear to players earlier on, since they're in charge of marketing/sales on PC. Like, in-game messaging would have been good for this. They also should have never allowed the sale of the game on regions PSN isn't available to in the first place, since they already knew they would killswitch non-linked accounts eventually.
What a disappointing day for democracy.
Arrowhead isn’t free of guilt in this, but Sony and Valve should have both done a much better job at making this clear to players earlier on, since they’re in charge of marketing/sales on PC.
Well they kinda did. When you first launched the game it did say that you need a PSN account to play. I know this because that's when I learned PSN isn't available in my country. But you were able to skip it and after skipping you never saw this notification again. Valve also has it on the store page "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)", but nobody reads those little notices. I don't blame anyone for missing that information, especially since not linking PSN accounts has not affected the game for months.
And if you want a really fun fact. Web archive link because I imagine Sony is going to change it, but on the Playstation website they explicitly state "Signing in to PSN is optional when playing a PlayStation game on PC.".
I'm not going to to anything hasty. I hope Sony walks it back because I do enjoy the game, but if by June nothing has changed I will ask a refund from Valve because I'll literally be unable to play the game, unless I go against PSN ToS. I have no problem getting on the FUCK SONY train once they've left me no other choice.
Very disappointing
I've left a negative review on the page. And I've requested a refund from steam.
I doubt steam will grant the refund, I'm at 275 hours. But I'm trying...
[update] refund denied. "We will not be granting a refund at this time."
Kind of weird seeing as they stated this requirement before release and you also agreed to it. Doesn't seem like your refund has ground to stand on.
That said, I didn't realize it either, but I'm not blaming my mistake on the storefront or devs.
It may have been in the fine print. I'll grant you that. But the de facto experience did not require a account with PlayStation.
I have on occasion accidentally bought an EA game, only to launch it to see that it requires an EA account, and then to refund it.
I don't have an issue with somebody creating a game that requires a PlayStation account, that's their business more power to them. Changing the requirements after the refund window has finished is what I have issue with. And I agree with you I don't expect them to give me a refund, but I'm going to god damn well ask.
But let's put it this way, I played a game, but I did not create a Sony account. Now the game is being taken away from me unless I agree to Sony's terms and conditions. If I don't agree if those conditions the game doesn't work. That's refundable
Not to mention a good middle ground would be you can't do steam to Sony cross play unless you have a Sony account. Fair enough
Crummy move to do after release.
Please inform any inactive / retired Helldivers to ask for a refund if their country does not support a PS account as they should not have been able to play the game in the first place.
I am unable to verify which countries are affected.
I don’t own a PlayStation and by extension don’t have an account. So I have to sign up for a service I have no desire for to play?
Well that's horseshit.
How kind of them to remind us that a live-service game is still a live-service game, and that arrowhead is still owned by a for-profit corporation.
I still plan to play, though. Wasn't account linking already required for crossplay, or was that a separate thing?
Are there so many non profit organizations in game development and publishing that a reminder was required?
If you take a look at its reception, the community definitely treats it like a major departure from other live service game practices. I’d tend to agree— the price, micro transactions, content and quality all seem very fair compared to other live service games in the space.
Big thanks for sharing this, this is my chance to ask for a refund.
I like the game's flavor and I think it's a good game but I just didn't get into it.
I loved this game but PSN isn't available in Estonia so I'm just locked out a month from now. I don't even want a refund, I just wanna play with my wife and friends.
Okay, fuck that noise. That is all
Whelp, fun while it lasted. This game is going to be dead within a month so I guess I'll stop playing now lol ...
It wasn't required before? I was prompted to do it when I launched the game for the first time, and it didn't look like I could skip it. I fumbled with it for a bit because I apparently already had a PSN account with my email when i tried to make one, and ended up having to reset the password.
There was a skip button when I installed it. I guess there was some fine print I didn't read saying it's mandatory lol.
I'm keen to buy this.
Does it mean I need to create a PlayStation account to play the game ?
Yes and if you live in a region that doesnt allow playstation access - there are some - then your shit out of luck
When I asked Sony's support about playing in the Philippines they replied with 
This violates their TOS. Your PSN network must match the country you live in or you're breaking their TOS
I'm pretty sure that, even under guidance from a support rep, Sony would still ban your account for not registering it in a valid country if they ever somehow detected it.
They really need to put out some concise messaging on this, ASAP.
They have put out concise messaging. They have committed fraud selling a product which now cannot be played in multiple locations. That was the messaging.
Wow. I was thinking about buying this, but it will absolutely never happen now.
Nahhh that’s ok the gameplay loop was getting samey anyway I’ll stick with game that respect the user base