Need to get these old ghouls out of office and set maximum age limits for all positions of government
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I think it's clear that people can be disconnected from reality no matter how old they are, and that older people are not excluded from being insightful and valuable to the political process (think Bernie Sanders and Robert Reich).
It's easy to feel like elminating older people from politics is a solution, but it's not. Voting for good people who actually represent your interests and the interests of your community is a better solution, but that's harder to think about.
You can't vote people into office who are younger when your only viable choices are people who are all over the age of 65.
Maybe, but Kentuckians have been voting against their own best interests for years.
Sounds like Kentuckians like to suffer. I say this as a Texan and my fellow Texans love to suffer and constantly vote against their own best interests.
Kentucky is inflicting their suffering on everyone else though, since McConnell was the reason for the shift in scotus by denying and then rushing appointments through the Senate.
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... that's harder to think about.
I would agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that there is also a minimum age for office. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If a grown adult is considered too young to serve then these geriatric ghouls are too old in my opinion.
Minimum for president is 35, senate is 30, house is 25. For one, I think those ages are "sufficiently youthful" to be generally representative of current modern concerns, all other things aside. They could easily be some years younger, possibly eliminated entirely, on the same basis as there is not a current upper age limit: let people be elected on their individual merits, and not exclude people on the basis of age.
I agree that there being a minimum age limit without an upper limit is contradictory, but a better solution would be to lower or eliminate the minimum. Perhaps some other kind of metric could be employed in place of a minimum age limit for federal office, like "having served as an elected official at the State level for two years."
I'd be okay requiring someone to serve as an elected official prior to serving in the House or Senate. Hell, I'd probably support mandatory public service for most if not all people for a period of time.
Logically, if you’re a candidate from any party, that knows they won’t be around in a decade’s time, what incentive, responsibility, or obligation do you REALLY have to do what’s best for ALL citizens— Including those who’ll be around for a few more decades. Especially regarding decisions with society-changing implications that’ll impact generations of change. It’s such a staggering conflict of interest that it’s not reasonable to expect any politician to set it aside.
That is even setting aside the obvious statistical likelihood that people over the age of 65 are significantly more likely to contract ailments that will impair their judgement and therefore their ability to do their job like Alzheimers (the exact same parroted reason for the minimum age requirement, that young people’s brains are not fully developed, and therefore are not able to perform the job adequately). If we’re going to arbitrarily set a minimum, we should be obligated to set a maximum.
Cognitive tests would be great. THANKS!
Too ripe for abuse by whoever sets the standard.
Even that can be fraught with danger. Who creates, administers, judges those tests? We already see bias issues in standardized testing for students.
There are already such tests and they were created by neurologists and backed by studies.
"Literacy" tests from the Jim Crow era South have very clearly demonstrated why these are not a good idea.
Those were for voting, not candidacy, AFAIK. Not that candidicy would have been any more fair then...
Maximum Age at election = median life expectancy
If you want to serve longer, make people's lives better.
My suggestion in another thread was if it's 18 years after birth to vote then it should be 18 years before average lifespan to lose the right to vote.
these crusty old farts need to retire. their dumbass voters keep reelecting them so it looks like it will take retirement or death to get rid of them.
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After telling a friend of mine about the Mitch McConnell incident yesterday, and he replied, “Him and (Diane) Feinstein gonna get a little cabin together and just see out their years on the porch?
This gave me an idea. I had my other buddy who frequents Midjourney prompt it with “Mitch McConnell and Dianne Feinstein sitting on a cabin porch on a couple of rocking chairs staring out into the sunset”
The result? Perfection.
That’s too nice of an ending for that toxic turtle asshole.
He’s made the lives of many people fucking miserable and doesn’t deserve a sunset ending.
And Diane is hindering actual progress being made holding a seat she doesn't even do the work for. More accurate if they were sitting there with the world on fire not a lovely sunset.
I certainly don’t disagree. It’s more imagery of wishful thinking that they would fuck off into the sunset than anything. 😞
Yeah, I understand.
I wish they’d fuck off into the centre of the sun as well.
That fuck doesn't deserve a decent retirement
Oh you did not, lol. 😭
I hope he shit his pants in that moment.
That's what I've been thinking, too.
I just hope the guy that stepped in to help is scarred by the stench.
Before anyone gets too excited: while Kentucky does have a Democratic governor, under (recently amended) state law, if McConnell's seat goes vacant, the governor doesn't get to pick his replacement but only gets to choose from a list of 3 candidates submitted by the state GOP.
The US is truly the bastion of democracy
Boooooooo!
Incredible out in the open fascism from the Kentucky GOP when they amended that law. Just like desatan and him changing the governorship law so he could fail at a presidential run.
Just flat out steamrolling democracy. Enemies of the people.
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And for anyone thinking this is a partisan issue, it's not.
EXACTLY. Diane Feinstein is in the same damn boat. Both her and Mitch could have fucked off into the sunset with plenty of retirement money YEARS ago, so it seems pretty clear to me the only reason they’re clinging on is power, and maybe hubris.
Get all these geriatrics out of office and put age limits on all public officials. This is such a farce.
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Honestly I do feel like people get too old at some point to be in power positions, but instead of just having a strict age limit like a lot of people are saying here, there should just be some positions that have this limitation. They could still work as advisors and such, as long as they don't have the last word.
People like Bernie Sanders for example can provide a lot of insight and have lots of experience in the field which is useful. But to have someone that could potentially die from taking a wrong step as a leading figure is a bit silly.
I don't think he's neurologically capable of speaking for himself after yesterday. Get a power of attorney.
people: you should resign because of cognitive malfunction
us establishment: <hides in a bush>
Edit: had to escape the tags so they're shown 🤔
Of course the MAGAts are calling for him to resign, they're nearly as mad at him as the Democrats! I'm not sure what it's going to take for voters to wake up and stop re-electing these geriatric politicians but it needs to happen. We can't move forward as a nation with all of these oldsters clinging to power and applying yesterdays thoughts and solutions to today's problems.
It is going to take a viable alternative. There should be a guaranteed primary every election, open to all voters, or better something like ranked choice.
The incumbent is essentially running unopposed.
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