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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

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as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

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We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Was the credit cut? Bc Existential Comics really be a classic

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

Don't know is EC has that signed in the image tbh. I just crossposted in this case.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, a lot of the comics (at least early ones, I haven't gotten very far) don't have credit on them.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (6 children)

As much as I abhor the state and wish we live like the state of Cheran (ironic of me to say state in this case, I know), anarchy will only work in a very small group, where everyone knows each other, are like-minded enough to not abuse each other's goodwill, and respect each other's personal boundaries.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (15 children)

So have a lot of small groups

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Free trade and mutual cooperation between collectives, I thought this was considered the standard anarchic model?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Anti-anarchist pretty much think

  • Anarchy = chaos

This is heavily promoted by mainstream media and language

  • Anarchists are pacifist

Many people seem unable to comprehend how a community might defend itself without a standing military and so assume we must be unwilling to defend ourselves.

  • Nothing can be accomplished without coercion

Because most of us have grown up within strict hierarchies coerced to do things we don't want, we have trouble imagining any other way.

  • Everyone is inherently a selfish asshole

This is probably projection in most cases

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How do you keep an Anarchic Utopia then? What stops Dickie McDickerson and his thugs from establishing a state on top of you?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The same that stops them from taking over a democracy. Sometimes.

If a society became anarchist enough to abolish state structures, there obviously had to exist a reason - there had to exist popular support.

Thus, someone attempting to recreate a state would face questions and opposition. People would try to persuade them of their error. If they declared a state, anarchists would not recognize it. If it claimed sovereignity above a territory, anarchists might not recognize that either.

The new state might encounter problems - unwilling residents would leave and be accepted in anarchy, annoyed anarchists would organize trade boycotts and sanctions, ultimately it could go badly and armed confrontation could follow. In some scenarios, the state might remain and attract people who want to live there. In some scenarios, war would follow - and if the majority really was anarchist, the state would lose and disappear.

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[–] Deceptichum 25 points 6 months ago

AAAB.

All Anarchists Are Based.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Anarchism wouldn't get that far in the first place lmao

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (7 children)

If Putin's and Bezos didn't arise in every society, you wouldn't need a government.

But they always do.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Ah yes the comic that deprogrammed me on anarchism

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