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Android 15 is now adding the ability to set a default wallet app. So on Pixels, you can change from Google Wallet to a third-party app.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Does that mean you can use third party (dare I say FOSS) apps for NFC payments?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

I was under impression that the big issue would be adoption. Like my bank supports only Google Pay and Samsung Pay, but definitely not a “FOSS Pay”.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are there any? (Searching Fdroid as we speak)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

There are not, and probably will never be, as they require proprietary blobs (e.g. see this issue in Catima)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully it'll mean you can just have your bank's app installed to handle it so you won't have any third parties gleaming a look into your purchase history.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

That's already possible. My bank doesn't support GWallet and I could set it as my default payment provider just fine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Banks were able to create their own NFC payment app, which can be set as default payment provider.

I'm not sure what else Google Wallet is able to do, but I guess this might be about being able to have a default wallet with tickets for events and similar.

Hopefully there'll really be open-source wallets. With banking/nfc pay this isn't possible for service ands security reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

15 Beta has broken NFC.... so, nothing works for now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Could you not already do that? My previous bank had their own nfc payments bullshit, but I've always been able to set that as my default.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yes you could, I use my banks app for NFC because google wallet sucks (it stops working when play integrity fails, so on most non-rooted phone with unlocked bootloader)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good. I've only had bad experience with Wallet. Tried to use it, added a card. Some time later I tried opening it and it was constantly crashing. It was like that for few weeks. I've tried upgrading, downgrading - the same. This is supposed to be a critical app. I've uninstalled and I'm never going to try it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

That's odd. Has always been dependable for me and my family over the years.

[–] Outtatime 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Cool. Google wallet has always worked out good for me though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It does work fine, but it's yet another avenue of data collection for them and another reduction of choice by a monopoly.

[–] Outtatime 1 points 7 months ago

I Didn't even know it was possible to use different wallets

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It has a major flaw: it works from anywhere so long as the phone is unlocked.

I wish there was an option to set it that payments work only when I open the wallet app.

To avoid accidentaly triggering a payment, what I do now is manually turn NFC off after every payment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you think we will see alternative wallet apps pop up from Cashapp or PayPal or even directly from bank apps? Also, would they be able to support the other non-payment functions of electronic wallets with transportation/event tickets and such?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Not gonna lie if PayPal made a wallet for android i would use it over Google Wallet.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I want to set cake wallet or monerujo as default