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Ever since I saw how bad the infestation of cars is in the streets all around me, I just don't find the idea of buying my own car very appealing anymore, in my small and dense town, every new vehicle on the street is a problem when the streets are tight and people already double park in many spots.

However, I do drive around my parents cars when I need to cause public transit here isn't the best but I try to utilize it as much as I could.

Nevertheless, long gone are the times when I used to watch YT chaneels like carwow and hoping that I get to own the cars that I see, I can maybe compare my resentment towards buying a vehicle to the idea of buying cigarettes or alcohol to someone who quit either, a silly comparison but I hope it gives you an idea.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spent most of my adult life without a car and without a driver's license. I got to acutely and intimately experience, for decades, just exactly how car-centric our culture is and how profoundly society can't and won't accommodate you if you don't own or can't operate a private vehicle. When I finally sorted this out and got my license and vehicle, I felt zero shame or regret. I was done being a martyr. Yeah the future is public transportation but the present is what it is. There is no shame in being that person who says "we should improve society somewhat" while participating in society.

[–] ted 3 points 1 year ago

I held off on a car for years and did ok. When we got an electric car a year and a half ago, it was almost offensive how much better our city was. Now I'm looking at getting an electric cargo bike as I don't always love driving.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Must be hard in America when there aren’t many ways to get around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My car was totaled so I had two options: 1) buy another car so I could get to work. 2) quit my job since there is no way to get there without a car.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If I worked at the supermarket near me in the Netherlands: just walk there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Even taking the horrible toll of cars on the environment out of the equation, now is a terrible time to buy any car. Infrastructure is changing, charging standards are changing, and technology both in and outside of cars is changing. The whole thing is just a turn off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yep yep, good on ya. Getting an ebike? I'm up to almost 3k miles on mine over the past 15 months. I love it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

what's the model of your bike?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want an e-bike, but they seem too big of a target for theft. There’s steps you can take, but lengthy lock setup and battery removal almost removes their convenience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I suppose it really depends on where you live. I usually don't lock up and leave my battery in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I would definitely get an ebike at some point, it isn't terribly popular around here still, but usage is definitely growing as I see more people riding.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I found myself feeling forced to move out of my closest city. Three years later, I finally caved and bought a car. I have been miserable ever since.

If you don't absolutely have to, do not buy a car. See if using taxi services and electric bike would cost less for the same result. Look at how often you would use it and how much distance you do with it. I would also maybe direct your attention to mopeds if you live in an extremely car dependant area. They are loud and a bit obnoxious, but at least they're cheap, don't use as much fuel, can easily be maintained by yourself and don't take up a whole street's parking. My years of owning one were some of the best of my life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's the case for me too, people scream to me I'm crazy when I tell them I don't really want a car. I used to like the idea of having my own car to drive around with, but the sentiment died out pretty quickly considering how little I would use it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When the alternative method is better, more convenient and cheaper it's hard to look back, I hope I can say the same in my situation eventually when I move to a less car dependant area.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem where I am is theft.

Public transit is too far away to comfortably use it, and my bike will 100% be stolen if I leave it anywhere.

I'm left with driving. Even if it's a few kilometers down the road. My bike would be stolen while I'm in the grocery store, and walking to the bus and waiting 15+ minutes for the next one to arrive is crazy considering it's a 10 minute drive to start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if there's no guard posted at the door I bring my bicycle inside the grocery store and park it with the carts. I've never had a complaint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are those areas in the U.S. but those could be thousands of miles away from you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in the same mood but with replacing my car. My car is at the end of the life cycle. And I have no intention of prolonging it much longer. It would cost me money an buying a new car really threatened my budget balance. Gladly I live in a small European town and I don't need a car for work so everything should be ok for me. The only problem is that I want to use government credit for an ebike by getting rid of my car, the thing is that I live in a flat and I don't have a bike garage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about an electric sitting scooter, like a Vespa?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I DIDNT KNOW VESPA MADE AN EV hot damn I gotta look into that. I loved my sprint back when I lived in Montreal!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also consider the financial realities. Cars depreciate right off the lot, and sales people will sell you anything if they can charge enough interest.

You might want to get a rate from a credit union before you go anywhere near a lot.

And of course there is rampant car fraud on craigslist, including non disclosure of salvage title.

You can do the math. Just choose wisely, and good luck!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I am definitely considering my own car, but even with it I doubt it would become the center of every form of travel I take - just something convenient for when I’m going someplace uncovered by trains or bike paths.

Otherwise, I figure I’ll just be victimized by long red lights like everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having a car means freedom and independance. How happy I was having my car during crazy lockdowns.

Just get in the car and drive out of the city. No need for public transport.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank god there are some smart fucking people here