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[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Agree with the sentiment, don't see how it's newsworthy.

Will we start seeing headlines like: Tom DeLonge says racism "not cool"

[–] [email protected] 136 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Billie Joe has fans who are influenced by what he says.

Billie Joe says not to be a cunt about trans people.

If I had a platform like Billie Joe I'd say that too.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Billie Joe is also bisexual so is speaking as part of the LGBT community.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is the same Billie Joe whose fans went home from an "American Idiot" anniversary concert surprised that he got "political". I reckon there's plenty of scope there.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's almost as good as the people who drag on RATM for being political. But not nearly as good as fans shit talking Morello and telling him he needs to stick to what he knows.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"You don't have to have a degree in political science from Harvard to understand this, but I actually do" (or however he phrased it) was one of the best comebacks to bad faith "stick to what you know" admonishing ever 😄✊️

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For posterity, the quote (that I never get tired of reading):

“One does not have to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University to recognise the unethical and inhumane nature of this administration but well, I happen to be an honours grad in political science from Harvard University, so I can confirm that for you,” Morello wrote in reply.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Fucking perfect! 😘👌✊️

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason Crewman Mitchell told Janeway to go "to the left"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Fun fact: Tom has said this is the highlight of his career, over anything else he's done professionally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

"Are we the idiots?"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, but considering how many influential people are having their anti-trans opinions broadcast (see: JKR), I think this kind of article is more necessary than you might think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

True. We may be at the point where we shouldn't just give people the benefit of the doubt in such matters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This Just in, Singer from Punk Rock Band Says Something Provocative, Leftist

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Calling them punk is much more controversial.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

gatekeeping doesn't feel very punk tho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't really care either way, I just thought it was an amusing point in context. The majority of what I listen to has pop on the end so I don't have much to gatekeep.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I don’t really care either way, I just thought it was an amusing point in context.

honestly same

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Pop punk then.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I am of the opinion that closed-minded thinking is only part of the issue. The other part is there are well financed interst groups who work hard to create and encourage division in order to prevent regular folks from working together for a common cause.

The reason is simple: convince people to fight amongst themselves and they will be too busy to notice how much they are being ripped off by the tiny handful of rich people at the top.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago

In other words, this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did you grow up Mormon? Cause that’s pretty much the whole plan

[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago

wow cant believe my republican conservative tradtional values heterosexual free market band has gone woke, this one really hurts

[–] Socsa 51 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a full grown adult with a demanding job and many responsibilities like feeding myself every day, and carefully balancing my caffeine intake with getting enough sleep, I legitimately cannot imagine having the time or energy to care about what other people's children are doing.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Once again a middle aged bisexual knows what’s up

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

52 is middle age.

That's good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah I’d say it’s something like 40-60. The middle of adulthood. Then around 60 it’s weird because it used to be elderly but 60 year olds are just in so much better shape than a few generations back were at that age. And really I think that’s where a lot of our awkwardness about aging comes from. Back in the day a 40 year old looked like a 60 year old now.

But yeah he’s old. He’s still cool af, but his iconic music was about a phenomenon I have to explain to people who can vote.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I had a relative tell me that the problem with trans and homosexuality is that it's a mental illness. Instead of fighting those ideas, my response was "so what?" I decided to follow that line of argument to its conclusion.

Even if it were a mental illness, it would be one that causes no harm. I asked that relative what they would do if they found out they had a mental illness, and that the only thing that treatment would accomplish would be to make them no longer love their spouse. Of course they'd refuse treatment and go on loving who they love.

That should be the end of the conversation. If someone is doing something that harms nobody, why should they be forced to change who they are to please someone unaffected by the outcome?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

I mean it's not obvious for everyone

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah obviously. Green Day has always been about this. Listen closer to American Idiot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My thought process.

"Is that my child?"

If Yes then, care and protect

Else, none of my business

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Oh shit I didn't know programmers could reproduce, nice! =D

[–] mindbleach 3 points 6 months ago

You should care about other families as well.

You just shouldn't define "care" as "police their genitals."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Else, none of my business

And, therefore, none of the governments business, since they represent the people. But what about the people that believe it is their business and, therefore, the governments business. Never end a thought process at "none of my business", VOTE!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

1000x talk about moral panic than actual moral panic.

Trans is boring.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there's definitely no concerted effort to strip rights from Trans people occurring across the country.

Oh wait no that's exactly what's going on: https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2024

Must be nice to be so ignorant things that don't personally affect you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I don't talk sarcasm. Think a bit and uncrooked your silly talk.

[–] mindbleach 2 points 6 months ago

What a weirdly understated condemnation following vulgarity.