LatinX___ at 2024-03-17 16:44:28+00:00 ID: kvauto3
To visit on the mainland its probably Århus.
Best to in live I'd say secondary larger nearby cities like Silkeborg or Skanderborg.
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Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 16:59:38+00:00 ID: kvaxed5
Interesting, thank you - why would you say a nearby city would be better to live in than Århus?
LatinX___ at 2024-03-17 17:23:48+00:00 ID: kvb1l3y
First is housing prices in general. You can own much more land without living 1 hour away from city center in these areas.
Second, despite being smaller nearby semi large cities has access to almost all the same services and entertainment.
Also most of these cities are not very far from eachother, and connected by railroads, bus network and highways directly.
Despite being much smaller the towns has been constantly growing and is still expected to grow for the foreseeable future, so you may not have to worry about the local economy too much.
Also these towns has so much better local nature to enjoy, surrounding by multiple lakes, rivers and large regulated forest you wont get to enjoy nearly as much in more overdeveloped areas elsewhere. :P
snarkybat at 2024-03-17 16:52:23+00:00 ID: kvaw644
Århus is probably your best bet for Jylland, but if I may ask, why specifically no island?
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 16:57:18+00:00 ID: kvax02n
Just that we feel it makes travel more difficult. To get from the UK to Europe means flying, or getting to a ferry terminal or the Eurostar station in London. And the Eurostar means basically just France.
When we do move, we're likely to want to travel a lot more, so being on Jutland also means we're that much closer to the places we want to go in West/Central Europe.
naggert at 2024-03-17 17:04:57+00:00 ID: kvayb49
There's just one caveat to that.... Most planes depart from Kastrup Airport - just outside Copenhagen. There ARE flights from Tirstrup, Billund and Aalborg etc in Jylland, but it's less and with fewer destinations.
So settling in Jylland to avoid bridges, might mean you have to cross bridges when you want to travel.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:14:17+00:00 ID: kvazx8n
That's fine - we'd fly less if we were anywhere in Europe, Sjælland included. If we were going further afield, like back to the UK or to Asia, then a drive or a train to Copenhagen would be fine. But having to get a plane just to go to a random European city for a weekend instead of a train or driving is why Jutland.
GreedyJeweler3862 at 2024-03-17 17:58:05+00:00 ID: kvb7jyc
I think you overestimate traveling by train in Europe. In many cases it’s not very easy or convenient, with lots of switches etc. Like for example the train connection between the UK and the Netherlands is better than between Denmark and the Netherlands.
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snarkybat at 2024-03-17 17:04:15+00:00 ID: kvay6ty
I had a suspicion that was the reasoning. It’s of course up to you, but do note that we have great highway bridge connections across Fyn and Sjælland, and soon directly to Germany over the islands south of Sjælland. They don’t really feel like separated islands in that sense, and it may be easier to settle in Copenhagen with its larger international scene.
Choosing Sjælland or Fyn will in no way make travel as difficult as you are used to! Denmark is really small and well connected with roads.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:12:26+00:00 ID: kvazlwh
Yes and we'd make use of the bridges to go to the airport at Copenhagen or to Sweden, but most of our travel would mean taking a train or car through Jutland anyway, so starting there would cut that extra bit off!
And some days I feel like I could move to a landmine riddled sandbar on the Baltic coast and somehow have better travel options that parts of the UK!
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squirrelsarethebest at 2024-03-17 16:57:58+00:00 ID: kvax42f
Århus is good to visit, and most probably the city where you will find a job, but if you want to buy a property in the area, then I would suggest neighbouring cities like Horsens, Silkeborg, Skanderborg etc. since housing costs are cheaper there.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:02:29+00:00 ID: kvaxvu4
Ah thank you. I take it the public transport connections to Århus are pretty good?
squirrelsarethebest at 2024-03-17 17:18:21+00:00 ID: kvb0me2
Yes there are trains you can take, especially Horsens and Skanderborg is very fast and convenient and trains go regularly.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:31:17+00:00 ID: kvb2wbp
Amazing, it sounds like this is going to be first on our list.
McCandlessDK at 2024-03-17 16:59:43+00:00 ID: kvaxeu8
Best answer right there!
mikk0384 at 2024-03-17 16:57:59+00:00 ID: kvax46w
You can easily move to Fyn or Sjælland too. There are bridges between the Sjælland, Fyn and Jylland, and although the bridge over Storebælt costs money to cross, the bridge between Fyn and Jylland is free.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:03:49+00:00 ID: kvay45z
Yes, we looked at Sjælland too but we'd realistically travel more by train or car through Germany, if we're not flying. Being on Jutland would save us just that little bit extra time and traffic.
DevilGeorgeColdbane at 2024-03-17 18:51:50+00:00 ID: kvbgzg0
It takes roughly the same time to go from Odense to Padborg as it does from Aarhus. Even about 25 min shorter by Google Maps estimate. And that is by both train and car.
Fun fact: There is a direct train from Odense to Hamburg.
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HCAndroidson at 2024-03-17 16:54:23+00:00 ID: kvawi8d
We have bridges you know.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:00:57+00:00 ID: kvaxmai
I know, it's just a preference. Even being on Sjælland would make travel easy compared to the UK
silversprings99 at 2024-03-17 18:17:26+00:00 ID: kvbb146
From Jylland, you can travel to Germany for free and faster. If you live on Sjælland, you have to cross the storebælts bridge to Fyn first which costs money, or take a ferry.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 18:25:59+00:00 ID: kvbcjdk
Yeah, thats exactly the reason why I said we weren't looking at Sjælland. When we travel we're most likely going to visit places via Germany, so being in Jutland means being closer to that border.
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hmmhmmmhmmmnoidea at 2024-03-17 17:16:20+00:00 ID: kvb09on
Vejle or Kolding might be an idea since they‘re centrally located and not too far from Billund Airport and the German border.
Celthric317 at 2024-03-17 17:18:43+00:00 ID: kvb0ooe
I am born and raised on Zealand and refuses to move, but I do envy how cheap Jutland is in comparison
EnvironmentalLake229 at 2024-03-17 17:49:24+00:00 ID: kvb619w
Aarhus compared to, say, Næstved? 😉 yep all of Jutland is super cheap in comparison to Zealand. Sometimes it’s like people forget the west and south of Zealand exist.
sp668 at 2024-03-17 16:41:34+00:00 ID: kvauc0z
That's really hard to say since it depends on your profession and where you can find jobs. But the second city of Denmark by far is Aarhus and that's on the east coast of Jutland.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 16:57:53+00:00 ID: kvax3mv
Perfect, thank you!
Peter34cph at 2024-03-17 16:59:55+00:00 ID: kvaxg1q
There are no cities on the mainland.
WhatLiesBeyondThis at 2024-03-17 17:02:52+00:00 ID: kvaxy91
Copenhagen is barely a city.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:07:55+00:00 ID: kvaytk3
Interesting, why would you say so? Is it missing something you would expect in a city or is this just banter?
Peter34cph at 2024-03-17 17:16:38+00:00 ID: kvb0bh5
Copenhagen is on the smaller city for a city (Danish: storby). Population 400k or something like that (or 1.2M or something for the Greater Copenhagen Area, or more than that if you count the entire area linked by the S-train system and by that new light rail going from Ishøj round to... somewhere?).
One can argue whether Aarhus, Aalborg and Odense qualifies as cities, or if they're just towns (Danish by without "stor").
I was being a bit frivilous when I claimed that Copenhagen is Denmark's only city.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:30:41+00:00 ID: kvb2sm3
Aha I get you! The bigger the city, the better for is generally, but we have to balance that against cost of living I guess.
Peter34cph at 2024-03-17 17:32:08+00:00 ID: kvb31n4
I'm not sure I said anything about that, one way or another.
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Drahy at 2024-03-17 18:16:25+00:00 ID: kvbaup3
Population 400k or something like that
Copenhagen and Frederiksberg municipalities are close to 800k
Organic-Football-761 at 2024-03-17 17:06:07+00:00 ID: kvayi9q
Ry is a town near Aarhus. Its very Nice here. Lots of nature, lakes and forrests
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:14:53+00:00 ID: kvb00un
Århus in general sounds better and better! Thank you
orangeknas at 2024-03-17 17:03:44+00:00 ID: kvay3mg
Jutland, as a peninsula, feels quite like an island in most aspects, not sure what exactly you are looking for. Anyway Sjælland/Copenhagen is connected with bridges to quite a bit. In the future there will be a tunnel to germany, so in many ways it can be more connected than Jutland.
If you want to be able to quickly get to other countries, then either live in Copenhagen where there is an airport, and train to Sweden, and germany in the future. Copenhagen also has the most job opportunities. In Jutland you could live near Aarhus or Trekantsområdet.
Overall you should probably look at Aarhus first.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:10:02+00:00 ID: kvaz6nq
Thank you, that's perfect. Cost aside, driving through Germany is the main reason for looking at Jutland, where we'd save the extra time crossing Fyn. We'd probably take a train to Copenhagen/Hamburg for flights or international rail, but we'd take less flights overall not living in Britain.
0-Snap at 2024-03-17 16:59:24+00:00 ID: kvaxcvo
I'm from Jutland myself, but I do think your rationale for not wanting to live on an island is a bit strange... It's not like you can even tell that you're on an island when you're walking around Copenhagen or elsewhere in Sjælland/Fyn, and both are connected to the mainland by bridges. If you want to get really technical about it, all of Jutland is an island too since the Kiel Canal in northern Germany forms a waterway that connects the Baltic and North Sea, and cuts off Jutland from the rest of Europe.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:06:22+00:00 ID: kvayjv3
It's not that we have a particular hatred for islands, just the best way I could think of for explaining not looking at e.g. Sjælland. If we do move, it'll be to travel Europe more, so having that much less to travel to get through Germany would be the point of picking Jutland.
ridderulykke at 2024-03-17 17:53:31+00:00 ID: kvb6r67
Then Sjælland is maybe still an option for you if this move would first be in a few years. The Fehmarn tunnel connection between Lolland and Germany is set to open by 2029.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:58:43+00:00 ID: kvb7nxw
We saw that, but haven't been able to find any information about how much the toll will be. If its reasonable then yes, Sjælland would be an option, but for now we're not planning around it.
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McCandlessDK at 2024-03-17 16:59:30+00:00 ID: kvaxdky
Århus is very expensive. Silkeborg is very nice and not far from Århus.
GreedyJeweler3862 at 2024-03-17 17:09:57+00:00 ID: kvaz674
It depends on so many things. What are your preferences? Do you want to live in a city, close to a city, in a small town, in the middle of nowhere, close to the beach, forest, etc. It’s also a bit deceptive to consider Jutland “the mainland” and Fyn and Sjælland “islands”. I mean technically it’s true, but both places don’t feel like an island at all when you live there, since they are all connected by bridges. Some people might argue that Sjælland feels more like “mainland” when living there, because the capital is there. It also of course depends on why you don’t want to live on an island. Aarhus is a really nice city on Jutland. On the other hand it’s very far from Copenhagen (to some that’s a positive thing and to others a negative). The mentality of the people living in the different areas/cities is also different. And then there’s of course a difference in job opportunities etc.
In other words, we really need more info about what you’re looking for, preferences, why you’re moving away from where you live now to give you good advice.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:22:05+00:00 ID: kvb1a9z
We're looking to live in a city, or as close to one as possible. Beach or forest doesn't matter, but reasonable rail and roads links do. When I talk about the mainland, I mean mainland Europe - a major reason for moving is to be able to access the continent more easily by road or rail, to increase our travel options without increasing the amount of flying we have to do, so no disrespect to the islands.
As for why we're moving, in short, neither of us like England. I don't just mean politics, but the quality of life is... odd. I'm not sure if you've ever visited us, but there was a period where the only place we could reliably buy tomatoes was a local polish shop (which also reliably has better quality bread and cheese, for cheaper than most supermarkets, with more choice). The necessity of using a car is starting to strain, and we both miss cultural opportunities we found more plentiful in Europe. So we picked a few countries we both wanted to live in and Denmark was the top of our list to try first, but we still want to visit places like France or Austria. Being on Jutland means we're already a little closer to the rail or road links we'd use to visit those countries.
sp668 at 2024-03-17 17:29:11+00:00 ID: kvb2j9a
Well if you're in Jutland you can from many places get to Hamburg in the same time or less than you can go to Copenhagen. Hamburg has everything CPH has and more. So yes, Jutland is more connected to the continent if you don't want to fly.
There's also an Airport in Billund that can take you most places in Europe (but CPH has a lot more overseas routes).
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