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snarkybat at 2024-03-17 16:52:23+00:00 ID:
kvaw644Århus is probably your best bet for Jylland, but if I may ask, why specifically no island?
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 16:57:18+00:00 ID:
kvax02nJust that we feel it makes travel more difficult. To get from the UK to Europe means flying, or getting to a ferry terminal or the Eurostar station in London. And the Eurostar means basically just France.
When we do move, we're likely to want to travel a lot more, so being on Jutland also means we're that much closer to the places we want to go in West/Central Europe.
naggert at 2024-03-17 17:04:57+00:00 ID:
kvayb49There's just one caveat to that.... Most planes depart from Kastrup Airport - just outside Copenhagen. There ARE flights from Tirstrup, Billund and Aalborg etc in Jylland, but it's less and with fewer destinations.
So settling in Jylland to avoid bridges, might mean you have to cross bridges when you want to travel.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:14:17+00:00 ID:
kvazx8nThat's fine - we'd fly less if we were anywhere in Europe, Sjælland included. If we were going further afield, like back to the UK or to Asia, then a drive or a train to Copenhagen would be fine. But having to get a plane just to go to a random European city for a weekend instead of a train or driving is why Jutland.
GreedyJeweler3862 at 2024-03-17 17:58:05+00:00 ID:
kvb7jycI think you overestimate traveling by train in Europe. In many cases it’s not very easy or convenient, with lots of switches etc. Like for example the train connection between the UK and the Netherlands is better than between Denmark and the Netherlands.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 18:08:21+00:00 ID:
kvb9dfcYes, but train connections within the UK are so poor that the UK-Netherlands connection can only reliably be said to be a London-Netherlands connection.
The rail is just an extra option - we'd also be able to take a coach (Flixbus) easier or just drive. For example, getting from Northern England to Vienna means finding an airport with suitable flights, then arranging travel around those flights, because the better ferry connections are along the south coast. From anywhere in Denmark, we have the option to fly, take a train via Hamburg, or drive.
Boulevardier_99 at 2024-03-17 17:42:26+00:00 ID:
kvb4t1hHonestly this is not very smart IMO.
Zealand is so large that you don't notice that you're on an island and there are numerous bridges. The bridge to Sweden is right outside Copenhagen. In the West there's the bridge to Jutland. In the south there are bridges to some smaller islands and a good ferry connection to Germany. In the north west there's a ferry to Århus. You can also take the ferry to Oslo from Copenhagen. And there's on that goes to Poland I believe.
If you're dead set on Jutland, Silkeborg is quite lovely with lots of water even though it's inland, and nice natural areas right outside the city. But it's kinda provincial, but that's up to you of course.
Good luck.
mandelmanden at 2024-03-18 14:19:12+00:00 ID:
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TobiasKM at 2024-03-17 17:36:21+00:00 ID:
kvb3rn4Or drive to Hamburg, no bridges in that direction!
snarkybat at 2024-03-17 17:04:15+00:00 ID:
kvay6tyI had a suspicion that was the reasoning. It’s of course up to you, but do note that we have great highway bridge connections across Fyn and Sjælland, and soon directly to Germany over the islands south of Sjælland. They don’t really feel like separated islands in that sense, and it may be easier to settle in Copenhagen with its larger international scene.
Choosing Sjælland or Fyn will in no way make travel as difficult as you are used to! Denmark is really small and well connected with roads.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 17:12:26+00:00 ID:
kvazlwhYes and we'd make use of the bridges to go to the airport at Copenhagen or to Sweden, but most of our travel would mean taking a train or car through Jutland anyway, so starting there would cut that extra bit off!
And some days I feel like I could move to a landmine riddled sandbar on the Baltic coast and somehow have better travel options that parts of the UK!
PotatoViking at 2024-03-17 18:41:11+00:00 ID:
kvbf618I understand not wanting to live on Sjælland due to the distance to the Germany border and the bridge toll, but I don't understand why you're against Fyn as a candidate due to it being an island. The bridge between Jutland and Fyn is free.
Odense would be a decent candidate, 3rd largest city in the country and cheaper than Århus. Travel time to Hamburg by car or train is pretty much exactly the same as Århus. Also much closer to Copenhagen if you want to reach an airport with good flight connections in shorter time.
So if Jutland is the only candidate, unless you settle on a location below Århus, you would gain no advantage on travel time compared Odense.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 18:45:32+00:00 ID:
kvbfx1xThat's fair - I've made an assumption that the bridge connections would be traffic snarls because infrastructure is bad in the UK. Originally that was the reason for wanting Jutland, because of an assumption that travel to the German border would be quicker if avoiding the bridges.
From other comments though, Århus is Denmark's second city, yes? Wouldn't that mean opportunities are going to be better there, for the sake of the same travel to Hamburg but slightly worse connections to Copenhagen (when compared to Odense)?
Chem_Engineer_123 at 2024-03-17 19:19:42+00:00 ID:
kvblogwThe connections to Hamburg (and the rest of mainland Europe) are actually better from Odense (both in car and by train) compared to Aarhus. The trains from Copenhagen to Germany all passes through Odense, abd therefore Odense is very well-connected. However, Aarhus is a larger city, and will have more of a Copenhagen-vibe compared to Odense.
Giving-In-778 (OP) at 2024-03-17 19:21:25+00:00 ID:
kvblyw3Thank you - from the comments it looks like Århus, Odense and Copenhagen need a visit.
Chem_Engineer_123 at 2024-03-17 19:26:29+00:00 ID:
kvbmtinThey are all very nice cities!
NCLI at 2024-03-17 22:43:49+00:00 ID:
kvcjsuuOdense will soon be less well-connected to Germany though, since the trains from Copenhagen will all move to the new Femern tunnel in a few years.
Once that happens, Copenhagen will be better connected to Germany than Aarhus, though it will obviously cost more to to ge there by either car or train due to the tunnel.
PotatoViking at 2024-03-17 21:10:03+00:00 ID:
kvc47kfCrossing the Lillebælt bridge on weekends is most of the time completely hassle free. And honestly even on weekdays at times of heavier traffic, it's usually not that bad at all. Us Danes like to complain about traffic but comparing it to much larger countries, it's barely non-existent. Which may be an exaggeration, but if you're coming from a larger city or urban area, you'll probably find the traffic in most of Denmark to be much easier to deal with.
I'm not sure what you mean about opportunities, but yes Århus is bigger and therefore of course more culturally interesting than Odense. Housing wise the price difference is fairly big though.