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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The first paragraph makes it sound like they were afraid because their roommate is a dumbass taking ivermectin for covid, then the second paragraph hits.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

Some real, "They had us in he first half" energy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No, you're both total morons and have absolutely no idea what actually works in the real world against viruses. If you think ivermectin is going to help with COVID, you're a total asswipe and a total moron, there's no ingredient in ivermectin that has any effect on the COVID virus whatsoever.

And no "god" is going to protect you from the horrible outcomes of your own ignorance. You don't get vaccinated, you take your chances at being killed by COVID, it's that simple. Period.

[–] Scubus 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you take enough ivermectin, you don't have to deal with the COVID though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or having cattle parasites, which would make sense if you're a cow or a horse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not just cattle parasites. It also cures people parasites. Now I do my best to avoid them rather than needing to cure them, but I’m fortunate enough to live somewhere that that’s an option

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know it's sometimes used to treat parasites in people, but I doubt it could do anything to kill the COVID virus. Getting the vaccine took 2 minutes, most of it just waiting to go in for the jab. It was easy and effortless and didn't cost anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh absolutely it’s an anti parasitic not an antiviral. I just think it’s important to not pretend like it’s solely veterinary when it’s one of the most powerful tools we have for a problem that humans very much still face

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Also tap water for my holistic fam out there

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There were hypotheses that ivermectin initially looked like it was helping with covid outcomes because it was being used in regions with high amounts of undiagnosed parasite infections. So, by clearing out the parasites, they improved the outcomes of covid co-infections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why that would improve outcomes of covid co-infections since COVID is a virus, not a parasite or bacteria, but I think people talk themselves into believing stuff works that couldn't possibly actually work, (like people who take Prevagen).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Because parasites add stress to the body and take up resources, so clearing them out leaves the body more capable of fighting off covid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah this is insane people Facebook. It’s where we watch people brag about suicide by natural selection

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There's a strong chance this person is a Young Living Hun. They push pseudoscience and are based on religion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I remember them! They had an essential oil for Ebola back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any relation to Attila the Hun?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Apparently he had a lot of illegitimate children as a result of his raids, so there's a possibility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Thieves smells fantastic, but that’s pretty much all it does. If you just want a way to refresh your kitchen after cooking a smelly dish, then by all means go ahead and wipe down your counters with it. But since it’s directly attached to a bunch of hyper-religious pseudoscience nutjobs who are attempting to set society back several decades, it’s difficult to recommend for anything beyond “I mean I guess it smells good” purposes.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

They'll VERY likely be fine, and would be fine if they did nothing at all instead of ineffective or even harmful "alternative remedies". The reason COVID is such a bitch is that everyone gets it, so even if deaths are under a single percent of people infected that's millions of deaths. Add in all the seriously affected people who survive but need expensive/labor-intensive/lengthy medical care and you can see why it's a big deal.

These folks can get away with anecdotes about their horseshit saving them because COVID was unlikely to kill most of them anyways. They are, however, more likely to be more seriously ill for a longer period of time with worse "long COVID" symptoms. "They found initially and during recovery from symptomatic COVID-19, fully vaccinated participants had lower concentrations of inflammatory markers than unvaccinated participants, suggesting vaccination is associated with short-term and long-term reduction in inflammation, which could in part, explain the reduced disease severity, mortality and risk of long COVID in vaccinated individuals."

Vaccination is at least as much about shorter, less severe illness with less likelihood of long-term effects for survivors as it is about preventing death. So the Ivermectin user will probably survive (and thus will likely claim they never needed the vaccine), but they and the roommate will have a harder time of it than they would have otherwise both during and after infection.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

What really gets me is these people refuse to take the vaccines because they don't know what's in them, or because it has chemicals, or because they don't trust doctors/scientists/the government, yet they will take Ivermectin and bleach...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve never had it. Nor have my wife and son. But my daughter got it and isolated for two weeks with my wife. We’re all vaxed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I got you covered. Caught it three bloody times already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn. I hope your long term symptoms are minimal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

First two times? Four months of depression. It suuucked. I was bracing for another round when I caught it for the third time, but luckily that time it was without long term complication, aside from being somewhat weak for a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Far out. Here’s hoping that it never happens again!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

All this 'powerful medicine' makes me think someone has no faith in the power of their invisible friend.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

"I told my therapist that I had suicidal tendencies and asked him what I should do. He said "go for it! ". - Emo Philips

[–] csm10495 10 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Vitamin C and Zinc are actually good for your immune system.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vitamin C or Zinc helping with covid is just as much pseudoscience as invermiacin helping with covid.

Technically both can help but the situation where they do will almost never apply in developed countries. A severe parasite infection will make it harder for your body to fight off covid so invermectin could help there by getting rid of the parasites. But most people aren't walking around riddled with parasites let alone to the point where it starts impacting their immune system.

Likewise if you are deficient in zinc or vitamin C it will harm your immune system and in that case they could help with covid. But most people in developed countries get plenty of both from their diet. You get vitamin C from far more than citrus, it's also in potatoes, onions, tomatoes, broccoli, peppers, and many non citrus fruits. It's also in a lot of artificial drinks. Likewise zinc it plentiful in meat, dairy, and grains especially in processed grain foods like cereals which tend to be fortified with it. Consuming excess of either vitamin just makes you pee the excess out. If your diet is bad enough that you aren't getting enough zinc or vitamin C then odds are you're going to notice before those two become too deficient anyways because you're going to wind up with something like an iron or magnesium deficiency which are both far more common and pretty noticable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Wow, great write up. Thank you for your contribution to the forum.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah but you gotta be careful where you get your vitamins and minerals, because a lot of supplements don't give them in a form your body can even use.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Heck, Ivermectin is good for you… if you have parasites. Does nothing for Covid tho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you use a special keyboard with enlarged keys or just type carefully with those hooves?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ivermectin is a general antiparasitic drug used in dogs, horses, sheep, cows, reptiles, and humans. It's on the WHO's list of essential medicines, and it was the 341th most commonly prescribed medication in the US. We use it for lice, scabies, whipworm, etc.

These people use horse paste because it's available off the shelf at Tractor Supply, whereas to get ivermectin for humans requires a prescription from a doctor. Which they're not gonna get, because it doesn't work for covid.

And they shouldn't get it, because we don't want to overuse it and end up with ivermectin resistant parasites. Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to ivermectin for horses requiring a vet prescription and doing fecal egg counts so we don't end up with resistant strongloides.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Nope. They have blind faith and that's a totally different mental illness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

So long as they get results, I don't mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I...don't even understand what they wrote, fuck I'm old :(