djec at 2024-03-11 06:55:55+00:00 ID: kuc3g2y
Maybe. But it will be tough to only work 20 hours a week and pay rent, food and also save up 7000€
1 semester is like 20 weeks right?
So you have 40 weekes to save up the 7000€
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keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 07:11:39+00:00 ID: kuc4q59
How much can i earn in a montb working 20 hours a week in Sonderborg?
Stonker354 at 2024-03-11 07:37:54+00:00 ID: kuc6ru3
Depends on the work ofc, but for for standard minimum wage around 1000 euro a month at max would be my guess
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 07:41:59+00:00 ID: kuc73a0
I mean by doing part-time work is it really possible ?
Stonker354 at 2024-03-11 07:50:49+00:00 ID: kuc7s5a
You have a year to save up the 7000? Possible yes, but you have to work for it.
Can you work extra in the holidays? If a semester is only around 20 weeks, you have 12 weeks off in the year
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 07:59:34+00:00 ID: kuc8gcm
I'll have summer break between 2nd and 3rd semester also if i just don't save money for the fee will I be able to only meet my monthly expenses like food, rent
wolframfeder at 2024-03-11 07:43:30+00:00 ID: kuc77fv
With a job in the service industry (waiter, restaurant etc) you're looking at 16-22eur/hour or 1300-1750eur/month if you work 80hrs/month-20hrs/week on average.
Sønderborg is not an expensive city, but it's still going to be on the tougher side to save 7000eur on top of living expenses at 20hr/week without any stipends.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:00:43+00:00 ID: kuc8jjh
Yeah that's why I'm asking what's the job situation in Sonderborg if i only have to meet my Monthly expenses like food and rent
wolframfeder at 2024-03-11 08:05:36+00:00 ID: kuc8xcw
It's possible to get a job, even as a english-speaking foreigner. Sønderborg is the most international student city in Denmark, relatively speaking - not in absolute numbers.
Lot of the restaurants and bars use international students in their staff, like lazy-dog, bella italia, fox and hounds, slidrs, mcdonalds, burger king, burger concept, lola, marcellos, æ bræt etc.
I cant comment on how hard the competition for the jobs are though.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:21:34+00:00 ID: kuca5ml
I really appreciate that. If you know anyone living in Sonderborg so that i can get the idea of what's the actual situation living in Sonderborg and how's day to day life
wolframfeder at 2024-03-11 08:24:19+00:00 ID: kucadau
I grew up in the Area and went to school there for most of my life, so i have an OK idea of what's going on there, but havent lived there for 6 years or so at this point.
u/svenons started studying there last year iirc, maybe he can be of help with the current situation.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:32:04+00:00 ID: kucayks
I'm moving out of my country for the first time so I'm kinda skeptical and want to confirm every possible situation first before i move out because i don't know anyone in Denmark
wolframfeder at 2024-03-11 08:35:51+00:00 ID: kucb8z2
You're eligible for student housing, which is usually cheap rent controlled housing, and they prioritize assigning to to international students over local/danish students iirc.
But as others have mentioned, you cannot rely on having a job from day 1, so it's a good idea to have a decent amount saved to help you get by while you're getting settled and sort everything out.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:38:55+00:00 ID: kucbhfi
I'll be taking myself with 3-4 months backup within that period of time i hope everything sorts out
Cann0nf0dder at 2024-03-11 07:44:59+00:00 ID: kuc7bo4
This seems completely unrealistic: "can I expect to immediately get a job where I can work half time and pay for all my living expenses, while also saving 700 euro each month?"
Dude you are lucky if you even able to get a job, if you don't know the language.
You will most likely have a hard time getting a job, and should definitely not take it as a given that you will succed in that during those 3 semesters. I find it highly unlikely that you can save up 7000 euro while here. Don't come unless you have some money in the bank, and a job is not strictly needed, but just helps a lot.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:18:54+00:00 ID: kuc9y34
What if i only have to support myself for my Monthly needs like food and rent? Will I be able to manage?
Duck_doc at 2024-03-11 08:26:01+00:00 ID: kucai2j
Most likely not
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 08:28:07+00:00 ID: kucanrr
Thanks man really appreciate your help
GeronimoDK at 2024-03-11 09:52:45+00:00 ID: kuch9do
I'll try to give you a best case calculation:
You're extremely lucky and find a job right away so you have work from day one and they'll give you exactlt the 20 hours, but since you don't speak Danish and you're in Sønderborg you'll most likely be limited to lower paying jobs like dish-washer, cleaning and similar. A decent employer would pay you at least €18 per hour (before taxes), but you'll probably get plenty of offers for way less, you shouldn't accept those offers! (And if you do accept them anyway you should definitely keep looking for something better)
20 hours * 18€ = 360€ per week, but let's convert this to months because going on it will be easier, so:
360€ * 4,33 weeks = ~1560€/month (before taxes)
Then you have to pay taxes, this is all automatically deducted by the way, bu here we go:
You pay 8% "labour market contribution" of everything you make, this means you're left with:
1560 € * (1-0,08) = 1435 €
Then you pay around 39% in municipal- and bottom tax, but you also have a personal tax deduction of about 556€ per month, so you're left with:
(1435 € - 556 €) * (1 - 0,39) + 556 € = 1092 € per month, after tax.
Sounds great right? Well, you'd still have to pay your rent and bills and find something to eat:
A very cheap dorm room (if you're extremely lucky) will cost you 300-400€ / month, if you find a proper appartement you'll be paying more. A quick search found this dorm which costs around 375 € / month including utilities! Most other places you pay water, electricity and heating apart and that will easily run you 50-100€ / month.
Internet will typically cost you 26-40€/month
A cheap phone SIM will cost you 5-10€/month
Food could possibly, maybe, be done for 200€/month if you live really frugal
So let's just go with 400€ for a dorm and assume that utilities are included, I did say best case after all, but I'm still going to put down internet and phone costs!
1092 - 26 - 5 - 200 = 861€ / month
So you'll be studying for how long before you have to put up the payment for the 3rd semester? 10 months, 12 months?
So best case you'd be able to save up somewhere between 8610 and 10332€ in that time... Then what about the 4th semester, 5th semester..? And that is a very theoretical best case! I would realistically not assume you'd be able to save up more than about half that amount, maybe two thirds if you really try hard! Can you imagine going a whole year without going anywhere, without going out to eat or drink, no parties, no (non-free) socialization? Just stay home, study, eat and sleep. No travels, no going back to visit family, no going to see other towns or cities, nothing. Even going to McDonalds or getting a pizza will easily cost you 10-15€, getting a beer in a pub will cost you at least 4-5€ and possibly double.
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 10:02:02+00:00 ID: kuci12x
Oh I'm really sorry i should've put it in my post that I'm going for the masters and it has only 4 semester I'll pay for the 1st semester from here and after that i only have to pay for my 3rd semester from there will be after 1 year after my classes started. And there's no fee for the 2nd and 4th semester. But after i read your post I'm assuming it's possible to pay for house, rent and food monthly but it'll be a bit difficult for me to arrange fee for the 3rd semester. But thank you very much you actually just gave me all the calculations that I required
Edit: Also It'll have maybe 2 months between 2nd and 3rd semester for summer break so I'll have full 40 hours/week for job and no classes in between
GeronimoDK at 2024-03-11 10:22:03+00:00 ID: kucjpb4
Realistically I don't think you can save up 7000€ in that time, but if you try hard you could at least save up some of it, maybe enough that 2 months of full time work will do the trick. I won't give you any guarantees though, the more you could save up before going, the better.
Full-time is 37 hours here, maybe if you can find some temporal work at night, that could help you make a little more, night time typically pays an additional 6€/hour or so. The demand for temporal work is typically higher in summer because people are away on vacation, sign up for a few "vikarbureau".
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 11:57:46+00:00 ID: kucsvby
Yeah i think I'll have to take the chance but also keep atleast 70% fees as backup for the 3rd semester but overall you provided very useful information
IYELLALOTTOO at 2024-03-11 10:21:50+00:00 ID: kucjooi
Torvehallerne takes non Danish speakers in
keewanm (OP) at 2024-03-11 11:58:49+00:00 ID: kucsze6
Thanks I'll keep that in mind
SkibDen at 2024-03-11 17:09:56+00:00 ID: kue4gs0
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