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AntsAndThoreau at 2024-03-10 16:08:43+00:00 ID: ku8glh4
Both pre-calculus and AP calculus is taught in high school, as a part of Mat A, B and C.
International gymnasiums exist, but normally courses outside of English are taught in Danish.
Generally, if you want to teach at a gymnasium, you need a bachelor degree (180 ECTS) with a minor (45 ECTS), a master's degree (120 ECTS) with a minor (45-75 ECTS) as well as pedagogy (60 ECTS).
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:10:05+00:00 ID: ku8gtqj
Thanks for this info!
Can you explain what ECTS and pedagogy are?
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:18:03+00:00 ID: ku8i5sf
Thank you! I'll be sure to read up on this. :)
AntsAndThoreau at 2024-03-10 16:20:28+00:00 ID: ku8ikbh
ECTS is the European Credit Transfer and Accumulation System, which is a standardized way of the defining the volume of learning. Generally, 60 ECTS equals one year of full-time study.
Pedagogy teaches you the fundamental theoretical and practical knowledge of teaching at a gymnasium. It's consists of a practical element (generally on the gymnasium where you are employed) and theoretical element (taught at a university).
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:25:28+00:00 ID: ku8je1a
Thank you for the explanations!
Someone else has said that it would be difficult to be accepted to a school without teaching experience. Does the pedagogy program help in any way to essentially "verify" my capabilities as someone who is looking to teach?
Euripdisass at 2024-03-10 16:32:59+00:00 ID: ku8kn9f
You can only do the pedgagogy program (pædagogikum) if you have a permanent employment at a gymnasium
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:36:31+00:00 ID: ku8l9by
Does permanent employment include being a teacher? I feel like it would be weird getting the pedagogy program after being at the school already.
Euripdisass at 2024-03-10 16:49:26+00:00 ID: ku8nh0e
With permanent employment, I meant a permanent teacher position at a school. It’s quite hard to get a permanent position, so it can take years before you’re actually “eligible” to the pædagogikum
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 17:14:05+00:00 ID: ku8rr9r
How do teachers learn to teach, then, if it's done after they already have a teaching position??
vukster83 at 2024-03-10 17:19:37+00:00 ID: ku8spj6
You with you’re sensible questions.
They generally don’t, instead working as a “yearly temp” (årsvikar)
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 17:20:16+00:00 ID: ku8stgt
I'm not understanding how the pedagogy program works. When do you enter this program during your teaching journey??
AntsAndThoreau at 2024-03-10 16:36:34+00:00 ID: ku8l9mh
Yes, part of the pedagogy involves being guided by experienced teachers and evaluating your performance. You can think of it as something that will fundamentally allow you to transition from a mathematician to a math teacher.
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:37:00+00:00 ID: ku8lcdr
Ok, that makes sense! Thank you. :)
Itsamesolairo at 2024-03-10 16:16:30+00:00 ID: ku8hwhj
Does anyone know if either pre-calculus or AP calculus are taught in Danish high schools (gymnasium)
Danish high schools teach calculus up to what the US would consider Calculus 2. Math up to Calc 1 is mandatory for most HS students. However, the format of Danish math classes is very different from US ones, with e.g. minimal time spent on trig identities and similar roté learning, and far less time spent on limits and series.
If either subject is taught in high school, I'd like to teach there
Then you almost certainly need to learn fluent Danish and complete a Master's in Math at a Danish university. You will need to learn fluent Danish pre-admission.
Note that you will need to pay full tuition - which is in the same ballpark as US tuition - because you are not an EU national.
but are any school courses besides English taught in English
Generally, no - at least not until the graduate level. A few high schools have English-language programs in math and a few other courses, but they're rare and being a native English speaker will not give you a leg up.
My other option is to teach calculus on the college level, which I don't mind, but I would have to further my education in order to become a professor
Consider this a warning with the best of intentions from someone currently in academia: "being a professor" is a career plan in the same way that winning the lottery is a retirement plan.
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:24:08+00:00 ID: ku8j62j
Thank you for the info on the different formatting of classes!
I'm planning on finishing university in the U.S. Does it make sense for me to get my bachelor's degree here and then get my master's in math at a Danish university? Where would I be able to learn Danish properly in a program?
I appreciate the warning about being a professor. I was admittedly leaning away from that because I didn't want to go through even more work with what I already have planned on my plate.
Itsamesolairo at 2024-03-10 16:27:47+00:00 ID: ku8jrxx
Does it make sense for me to get my bachelor's degree here and then get my master's in math at a Danish university?
That is probably your most realistic avenue, as you wouldn't need to speak fluent Danish to be admitted. However, the program will not make any effort to teach you Danish, so you will need to learn that on the side via e.g. a language school.
You will also need to be extremely careful that you actually fulfill the admission requirements. Danish university degrees are far more focused than US ones, and you may fall short of the admission requirements if too much of your degree is taken up by non-math classes.
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:29:53+00:00 ID: ku8k4le
Do you know of any language schools I could attend? I need to mostly focus on vocabulary as compared to grammar at this point.
Also, I do intend on my classes being mostly math-focused. Are any other courses (e.g. English, Danish, history) a requirement to graduate from a Danish university as they are here in the U.S.?
Itsamesolairo at 2024-03-10 16:32:00+00:00 ID: ku8khcs
Do you know of any language schools I could attend? I need to mostly focus on vocabulary as compared to grammar at this point.
You will have to do that research yourself. Make sure to look for ones that offer the option to take the Prøve i Dansk exams.
Are any other courses (e.g. English, Danish, history) a requirement to graduate from a Danish university as they are here in the U.S.?
No, Danish university degrees specifically do not contain out-of-major classes (although they can be taken as electives in certain programmes), which is why you need to be extremely careful.
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 16:35:46+00:00 ID: ku8l4nz
Thanks for telling me about the exams!
Is it specifically related math courses I should be taking, then?
Jaricksen at 2024-03-10 17:04:28+00:00 ID: ku8q2re
In Denmark, a student applying for a masters program in maths will have taken three years of pure math classes already. To add to this, they will already have taken what amounts to calculus 1 and 2 in high school.
So make sure that you spend at least 3 out of 4 of your years in a US college only doing math classes, if you want the best possible chance of getting in.
You should be taking classes in proof techniques, real analysis, complex analysis, proof-based geometry, pure algebra (ring theory and the like), probability theory, measurement theory, topology, etc.
This will likely go beyond what is typically requirement for a math major in a US BA programme.
IndicationSpecial344 (OP) at 2024-03-10 17:11:58+00:00 ID: ku8re6z
Thank you for the recommendation!
Broder at 2024-03-11 12:41:28+00:00 ID: kucxy8k
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