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Paying monthly for software is a scam

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Tl;dr: You did not own the software.

When you purchase a program on a CD, what you typically own is a physical copy of the software and a license to use the software. This license outlines what you can and cannot do with the software. Common rights granted include the ability to install and use the software on a computer, and possibly to make a backup copy for personal use. However, you do not own the software itself in the sense that you could redistribute copies, modify it, or use it in ways not permitted by the license.

This legal concept of software ownership has not fundamentally changed in the last 20 years, but the specifics of licensing agreements and the enforcement of digital rights management (DRM) have evolved. Two decades ago, software often came with "shrink-wrap" licenses, where the act of opening the software's packaging constituted agreement to the software license. Today, software licenses are more commonly agreed to digitally via click-through agreements during the installation process.

The shift towards digital distribution and cloud-based services has also introduced new licensing models, such as subscriptions, which grant access to software for a limited time, further emphasizing the distinction between owning a physical copy and owning the software itself.

In summary, owning a program on a CD grants you a license to use the software under specific conditions, not ownership of the software code or the right to do anything you want with it. This principle has remained consistent, though the details of how software is licensed, accessed, and used have evolved with technology and distribution methods.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. But at least once you had the license you didn’t have to keep paying for it monthly until you died.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shit! Am I paying for Steam monthly without realising it? I have too many bills. Everything gets buried in my credit card statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

don't tempt the fates!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

tl;dr: don't believe strangers on the internet about digital rights, including me

With that said, you're splitting hairs for no good reason imo. When people talk about having owned software they mean it in the way people talk about owning copies of books or movies or music, which is to say they don't mean "ownership of the software code or the right to do anything you want with it." Basically nobody buys a copy of a book or the like thinking they somehow have the full rights to them nor that they could do with them what they will, outside of maybe sharing them with a friend or selling them when they're done with them.

Really, the law simply hasn't caught up sufficiently with digital media to properly address software ownership in ways that meet the interests of both businesses and civilians. That said, the simple fact that you can sell a used copy of software on physical media is sufficient to indicate that your point is rather weak. The absence of a digital infrastructure to enable a similar sort of secondhand market is more of an indication of the failings of existing legal systems to have kept pace more than anything imo. There really is no good reason that one couldn't exchange or sell used (licenses of) digital goods beyond businesses interested in maintaining control over digital markets, governments failing to check them, and civilians failing to compel their governments to check them.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 9 months ago

Oh fuck off.

You own things when you buy them.

That's what the money was for.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago

Yeah you can thank bill gates for that. The enshittification is strong in that one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

❤️ GOG (For those who don't know: drm free PC games you can buy there & download)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you sail the digital seas you still can

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://myrient.erista.me/

This is better and safer.

Same folks who run 3ds hShop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’m in the minority who loved Sonic 3D Blast. Played on PC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Make backups, as CDs tend to last about 10 years on average.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Sonic R was my jam

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

My goodness, I had forgotten all about Bug!

My Sonic CD disc was different: it was printed with Sonic rolled up in a ball so he spun around in your CD drive. I scratched that CD up bad when I closed the disc tray and it wasn't set in it correctly...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

And some of them had pretty good sound tracks. You could pop them in a cd player, skip the first track, and start listening to some background music.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I honestly had no idea Sega made disk based PC releases of some of their titles until a few months ago.

I'm hoping one day to get the Sonic PC Collection that was apparently released only in Australia and New Zealand. Comes with Riders, Heroes, Adventure DX, and Mega Collection Plus.