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Today i was doing the daily ritual of looking at distrowatch. Todays reveiw section was about a termal called warp, it has built in AI for recomendations and correction for commands (like zhs and nushell). You can also as a chatbot for help. I think its a neat conscept however the security is what makes me a bit skittish. They say the dont collect data and you can check it aswell as opt out. But the idea of a terminal being read by an Ai makes me hesitant aswell as a account needed to use warp. What do you guys think?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hell no! I absolutely do not want AI in anything if it's not running entirely locally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

tldr, fzf-tab suffices for me. For anything else you may give shellgpt a try. But I love my Alacritty with a zsh and p10k.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know what AI could bring to the table in this case that you can't do without it already. Command completions or fixing typos works without using AI. If there was an actual benefit, I'd be open to try it out but only by using an open source LLM running locally. I'm definitely not creating an account and paying a monthly subscription while not even being able to use it offline.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Helping with complex Terminal commands/shell scripts is basically my #1 practical use-case for AI right now... especially if you use tools like JQ a lot. Saving keystrokes is a lifestyle, after all.

I am also a really big fan of Warp, and was even before they added the AI feature (the editor-style functionality is wonderful). For the record, the AI isn't always running in Warp, to use it you start a prompt with hash (#) and then ask for what you want and it presents options.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

simply use thefuck

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

optional autocomplete is a nice-to-have, eager autocomplete is a pain in the ass. as long as it only completes when I ask it to, I don't mind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is faily easy to build using offline models. Only problem is GPU whirring away running typically light terminal commands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Don't need it, don't want it. They can fuck off with this nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Terminal with GUI drop down menus every time you try and type something seems like the kind of Terminal a microsoft executive would dream up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To me this is complete nonsense


but they (warp) seem to be funding fzf ... which is good on their part, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If I have to use a cloud service or create an account to use the terminal, it’s a no for me dawg.

Did warp ever follow through with allowing folks to use it without signing into your GitHub account?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As long as AI is not being forced into the existing terminal standards, it's good, as you can just choose to not use a terminal with AI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like every use case they showcase is useless if you remember the commands. And if you don't know a command, the classic googling until you find something that works usually does the trick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really enjoy Warp. It’s sleek and modern, plus it saves me a lot of time with its advanced autofill features. It also gives me helpful suggestions for minor edits if I’m making small errors that keep a command from running.

I haven’t used the chatbot, but I have found the user experience of the program to be better than most other terminals I’ve used before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in the same boat. Best terminal app I've used in a long while. Not using AI features

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm likely going to try out Wave Terminal with a self hosted LLM. I think it may well be quite useful, just don't want to upload my entire command history to OpenAI.

[–] Steamymoomilk 3 points 1 year ago

Let me know if you get that working! That would be super cool.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The AI can have access to a terminal in a docker container on my raspberry pi. If I’m convinced it’s trustworthy it might move up to a docker container on my desktop.

[–] priapus 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the non AI features of warp, such as the modern editing and easy function creation, are more interesting to me than the AI features. I wish there was an open source terminal that felt this modern.

I have used AI to generate commands many times, but not often enough that I need it built into my terminal. I prefer my default terminal experience be more minimal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Just use Ollama.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll just use ChatGPT standalone, lol. Or cheat.sh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fish's autocomplete is enough for me. I do like having Copilot in my editor but I can't really think of a reason I'd need it in my terminal. Most of my time in the terminal is just installing things, git or moving things around and I have all those commands down as muscle memory.

[–] IamRoot 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Steamymoomilk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it could be a good entry point for people learning the linux terminal. IE windows to linux, However i refuse the idea of having an account and it running on another trust me bro computer. I also think the account idea is rather stupid and a privacy consern.

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