this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2023
187 points (95.2% liked)

Linux

46775 readers
2116 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

This week the Slackware Linux project is celebrating its 30th anniversary. It is the oldest Linux distribution that is still in active maintenance and development.

all 34 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] wildbus8979 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean sure, but Debian is far more active, relevant, and only like two months younger...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I started playing around with Linux 25 years ago Debian and APT was a small revolution in how good it worked out of the box.

I tried to get into Red hat and SUSE and I always wanted up in trouble even before I got any Windows manager up and running. Don't get me started on RPM and dependency hell

Debian just worked. I had stuff up n running BEFORE I had to go down the rabbit hole to understand how all things was connected.

For a beginner that was a game changer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish I had known about Debian and apt back then! I spent years distro-hopping because I was so tired of chasing down RPMs in redhat. Like seriously, you can't just tell me everything you need, and grab all those files at once when I try installing a package?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ugh. I've been a Debian (and derivatives) user since the late '90s, and you're unlocking memories of what chased me away from Red Hat distros back then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Glad to have been of service! 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I disagree with suse. suse was the first distro where I was able to get a laptop working completely without having to download additional drivers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Debian has a lot of other things going for it - but Slackware still beat it by two months, and Linux wouldn't be the same without it. Worth celebrating! 🎉

[–] wildbus8979 7 points 1 year ago

You aren't wrong :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, wasn't SUSE Linux originally based on Slackware?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't laugh, you didn't get it, but if you ONLY laugh, you didn't get it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I only got it because I watched Brodie's video. Although I am thinking of switching to Slackware.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After getting my hands on unix at work but unable to afford the cost to run it at home, I discovered a version of Slackware that installed in a folder on my Windows desktop. It only took a few weeks of playing around before I set up a dedicated server (which was then hacked within the first week, pushing me to learn about this thing called a "firewall") Whew it's been almost 24 years now and I've been happily using Debian for nearly half that time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you mean by the cost? Because you didn't want to wipe out your Windows OS? I've been running distros on my personal PC for 23 years now. Can't say I've ever spent money on it except for some cheap CDs. I think I even got distro cds for cheap that came with linux magazines.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I assume the cost was of Unix and not Linux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you wanted to run actual Unix, there was a significant licensing fee. That's one of the reasons Linux took off, because it did all the same things but was free.

[–] wildbus8979 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean the BSDs have been around since what? The late 80s? With the more "mainstream" distros (Free and Net) since the early 90s... The 80s if you count NextSTEP and SunOS!

But I get what you mean, there's a reason Bell was forced to relinquish it's code with anti-trust laws!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was around '99 that I got into this. The internet was quickly building momentum, I finally had DSL available, and I happened to run across a reference to linux. I had been searching for an alternative to Windows for awhile already (I still have a CD with OS2/Warp on it) so the idea that not only could I replace my desktop, but I could also run free servers??? My mind was blown. It took me another six years to get my desktop to where I could truly ditch Windows completely but I've never looked back.

[–] wildbus8979 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was a mac guy in the 90s, which was rather unpopular. I started just experimenting with stuff to expand my horizons. In ~97 I started playing with BeOS, and NetBSD. The latter was pretty much the only thing that had a native boot loader for the OpenFirmware. Played a bit with Yellow Dog Linux and MKLinux after that, but NetBSD remained my go to. I almost fully switched in the early 00s but OSX came out and being Unix system I stuck around. By the mid 00s I was using a mix of NetBSD and Debian/Ubuntu for servers, and a couple years later fully switched to Debian to have one single OS that I could use everywhere.

Never looked back!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aaaah I understand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Topologilinux?

Took me weeks to get my modem to work with that. Had to keeep rebooting back to windows to disl up to the net and check documentation and tutorials…

After that things picked up, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I never heard of that one. A distro that I used for a few years was called "Mage" though, which provided what I thought any of them should have been doing. I eventually stumbled on Ubuntu, but they burned me so many times trying to run servers, that's when I finally got on Debian. Nothing worse than having their security updates destroy all network access, and still having the ticket open at least 15 years later (I was still getting pinged from other people running into the same issue on bugzilla).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I think I still have disks for Slackware 11 and 13 floating around somewhere. I even ran 13 for almost 2 years as a daily driver... And then got pissed off trying to update packages.

I'll admit that these days I just run Ubuntu, because it's easy, and it works without hours of googling how to fix some random dependency that I can't actually find for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Slackware 10.1 was my first time taking Linux out on the town. Had IBM Thinkpad T23. Thought I was pretty hot stuff. I still have massive respect for the project. They’re one of, if maybe the only, Linux distro out there that comes close to the quality of documentation as FreeBSD and because of that they’re the only distro that still feels like I think Unix felt like, or should feel like… idk maybe that’s nostalgia speaking…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, so, silly question: What was the first linux distro, regardless of current activity?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it was MCC Interim Linux.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Interim Linux would be a neat modern distro name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neat! I'll have to look into that, thanks~

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Another one bites the dust 🎵

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

TAMU was an early one I used. There were lots that were one and done too so it's hard to keep track.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think the last slack install I did was in 1996; from floppies! <-- beatdown