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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fantastic news. Every major destination should commit to banning these monstrosities until they all disappear.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vacationing on a cruise ship is like being trapped in a floating mall. When they do let you out of the mall, the shore excursions are often trips to a smaller mall.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I've been on two cruises and I've stated my opinion.

I didn't state at all that one should not like a cruise or a mall for that matter. To each is own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don’t like them, don’t go. Also some are better than others at not feeling like a mall. Some folks enjoy casinos and bars and the ship takes you to new destinations. The ship itself is the core destination and if you don’t go into it thinking than then you won’t enjoy yourself.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignoring very subjective tastes, they're pretty shit for the environment regardless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yea no argument there. Some of the new ships with LNG are pretty interesting. Another big problem is flying a flag of convenience and bad labor practices.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Parking in the city center of Amsterdam will cost you more than 60 euro for a full day. But if you park at the edge of the city, close to the highway exit and next to a metro station, it will cost you 1 euro.

While it is no outright ban, it is one of the various ways the city is pushing cars away from the center.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Netherlands is the most bike friendly country in the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Amsterdam is really trying to transition away from being a tourism destination.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Would be great if we succeed, tourism is only a relatively small part of the economy here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They don't care, because they already have one of the most livable cities on the planet. Locals over tourists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@HobbitFoot @BrikoX They are transitioning away from that kind of tourists that they don't want - for obvious reasons. These cruise ship tourists are normally having few hours for the town. So they won't have time to really discover the city, visiting the museums, taking their time in some small restaurant, ... Instead they are carried through the city mostly by bus (I assume) and are pressed through some hand picked attractions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, the people that stay for a few hours or a single night tend to be more reckless and less mindful of local laws and etiquette.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lucky I just hit Amsterdam up on a Iceland/Norway cruise in June. It’s a beautiful city and port and will be missed. There are not too many cruise ports that are in the heart of the city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what percentage of the port cities economy that the cruise ships stop at is driven by the cruise ship passengers? might be a net bad thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So allegedly cruise tourists eat all meals on board the boat since it’s free as well as sleep there, so they spend very little compared to other tourists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amsterdam? Have you ever read a book?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

clearly not

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will they ban planes next?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Government just lost a court case, forcing a reduction of flights into and out of their main airport.

https://www.ft.com/content/16597642-2ec2-4c3f-9264-7f51b8b96701

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