Canada declares Flipper Zero public enemy No. 1 in car-theft crackdown : technology

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like buying a bunch of Flipper Zero devices and selling them on the street corner is a great investment opportunity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

WTB.

I'm in the US. PM me with your scalper prices.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Can you even buy these without ending up on a list somewhere? Since its only sold online this feels like the kind of thing that gets you on a list

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I could care less about cars, but this thing has hacked glucose pumps and led to a St Jude's pacemaker recall, so fuck em. People can have their toys back after manufacturers of literally everything are better regulated. Until then, it's a weapon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

it can't do anything a rooted phone can't.
most features don't even require root (like android allows direct control over the ir blaster)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Then why weren't glucose pumps and pacemakers being targeted by phones before these Flipper Zero started trending?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who says they weren't?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I did, just now, are you going to argue my point or not?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not my job to prove your statement correct. That's not how debate works. It's your claim, it's your responsibility to underpin it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not here to present my thesis, and even if I were then proving something doesn't exist would be a stupid waste of time as absence of evidence is not itself evidence. I've already presented multiple specific breaches caused after the availability of Flipper Zero. You have Zero legs to stand on in this argument.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

This is about more than just cars. Anything that uses RFID, NFC, etc, such as an employee badge or even contactless credit/debit card payments, are vulnerable to such an attack.

Jason Thor Hall (ex-Blizzard employee) explains how such things can be used in social engineering attacks. A Proxmark is a similar device to the Flipper Zero.

Regardless of whether it's open source hardware/technology, should we be authorising sales of such prebuilt devices for $170 which can allow the average Joe to break into an office or steal a car?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'd argue that these devices are so cheap and so capable that it exposes the poor security that is rampant everywhere. Banning them wont stop similar devices from being made and used criminally. Instead this should be a wake up call to everyone about which forms of communication or authentication are largely ineffective.

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