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I know we pretty much all hated spez for all the shit he pulled, but a few weeks ago the tone towards reddit itself around here was more neutral. People liked it here on Lemmy a lot better, but people weren't hating on the old place so much.

Recently I'm seeing this huuuuuuuge surge of just pure fucking hatred leveled at the site itself. Anyone else notice this or is it just me?

I mean, I was there because I thought it was alright. I hated spez for fucking it up and completely screwing his communities over. But I never hated reddit itself, and I still don't. Otherwise I would've left a lot sooner.

Do you personally hate reddit? If so, why?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve hated Reddit for a while now and was originally happy to move to another platform but I’m already seeing lemmy start to show the same behaviors I hated Reddit for so I don’t think I’m gonna last long on here anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Remember you can always just move to a smaller Instance and block the most annoying ones. Key difference here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it was great with more content. Or was it - so much of it is just stupid articles written as clickbait or strongly opinionated pretending neutrality.

And all the bad memes… really wish I could block communities my regex.

But I kept visiting Reddit while Apollo was up, so… and there are good Content here as well.

There are still more sane alternatives, like joining Beehaw and stick to local communities, or check out Tildes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It reminds me of watching a particularly nasty break-up play out, with emotions running high and lots of bile being spewed.

I dunno - I never especially liked Reddit in the first place, so it's just a thing I see others do. I moved there sort of grudgingly about ten years ago because there just weren't any other visble alternatives, and I've been more or less actively looking for a replacemnet all along, so when the threadiverse took off, I was ready.

But I suspect that for a lot of people, it's essentially that they invested a lot into the relationship, and then suddenly their partner betrayed them, and now they're pissed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, I've seen worse than hate here. I've seen apathy.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Since threads and some instances not giving a strong stance on whether they will block them my hate has shifted to Meta. They are the bigger fish now.

Also, new people are still coming in. I'm not in the loop on new drama anymore like awards that were mentioned or whatever. Going to guess people coming now are fresh on their hate like people before the api deadline were.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Censorship, closed down subs, powertrip mods.

Try to appeal a sub ban from your alt account? That's a paddling.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

Reddit used to be a lawless land that didn't care about comedy accounts or multiple accounts or shit posts. No one ever got banned. No one ever got censored. It was fun. People didn't take it that seriously.

The last few years however it's been turning into basically any other social media site. Politics everywhere, censorship galore and bans handed out willy nilly based on nothing more than ideologies and opinions, mods and admins tightly controlling narratives of threads and entire subs, and just slowly eroding what made it a fun site to visit. Certain political ideologies have taken over and anything outside of those opinions is insta-banned. Going to Reveddit or uneddit (i think thats the name of the second one) and looking at any "hot topic" thread was eye opening - mods and admins removing dozens/hundreds of completely harmless comments because they didn't like the opinion that was shared, leaving no trace that the comments even existed, giving the perception that there wasn't any censoring going on.

I don't hate reddit. I deleted my 12+ year old account and left because it isn't the site I liked, and an alternative now exists in Lemmy. I think Reddit is a shitty site now that is basically a highly censored astroturfed political site, but I don't care that I'm no longer using it.

People on here are hating reddit more now because more and more people are coming here from reddit because of the shitty things reddit has been doing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I suppose that would lead to a lot of associations. Personally I blame all of that on the people that actually did it though, not just reddit as a whole, which I just view as a successful website. The actual real life people who did those things and made those decisions are the ones that deserve the real condemnation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And the actual real life people who run reddit encouraged them, or ousted them for actual real life people who would do it.

The shitty people who enable shitty policy are shitty, but I try to focus on the fact that they're just enablers.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's hard knowing that your favourite small subs are a ticking time bomb; once they get too large they tend to be too strictly controlled and the content quality drops.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really miss the 'fun' part

There used to be expat circles where it was a great for expats just to vent, China, Japan Korea and Thailand. Making fun of Redditor who are absolutely naive about a country and found 'love' on wechat, to archetypes, making fun naive locals, to self deprecating humour like violently shitting yourself from food poisoning or how squat toilets are racist against caucasian-chinese because white people can't squat to shit. Then I guess some Asian Americans do not understand the country well enough to get the context and then one day it's all gone.

2balkan4u is a great example of this, just users from the Balkans bantering then admins saw this as a 'hate' subreddit and just gone, people knew it banter and a gross exaggeration of beliefs and perceptions about other countries which has been a ongoing thing for last 1000 years. Yet Reddit admins put a stop to that, banned the entire subreddit. For a website that preaches tolerance, people outside of American culture do not see black and white in race, sexuality or politics yet be completely ignorant to the point of intolerance.

Reddit is now seething and hatred.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% this.

Everyone is just looking to be outraged these days. They want to find something to complain about so they can get it banned so they can feel good about themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

my entire history of reddit was joining a small cool sub about a niche topic i liked. learning more and more and watching it grow. then watch it become flooded with low quality content by more and more people who were just there to brag and ask stupid questions and troll. then the good users would leave and the mod would ban anyone who disagreed with whatever populist bullshit was being pushed and pointed out viral marketing and steal advertising accounts. that or the mods were uptight nazis who basically banned anyone or anything outside of what they posted. or the pathetic users who would stalk and harass and insult you because you said something they dind't like.

i just wanted a place where i could enjoy things and learn things and be free of peopel trolling for attention and validation for their fragile egos. pretty much all hobby subs become 'look at this very expensive thing i purchased'. or if they were artistic it was 'good vibes only'. on top of all the bullshitting and lying and karma farming.

reddit was best when it was basically link aggregator with comments. as soon as people were able to post images/videos and were able to ban anyone they disagreed with, it basically devolved into a kindergarten level show and tell hugbox with the mods being kindergarten teachers telling us anything other than 'being nice' meant you were no longer allowed to participate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Reddit used to be fun. anarcho communists and hardcore libertarians could trash talk, debate, and banter. people on the site were just fun weirdos. nothing was personal, very little was seriously political.

then everything became serious business, and no more fun was allowed and mods became growth-grubbing ban-happy nutcases who only allowed 'correct' opinions, and the site became useless as both a source of entertainment and education because it became about perpetuating the very serious bullshit bubble of your sub at all costs.

i have been mostly having the same opinions for a decade on reddit. the past couple of years my pragmatic thoughts are now a bannable offensive because they aren't so far-left or far-right nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've seen the opposite. A few days into the blackout, I saw someone post this meme about dictatorships where they (literally) put a picture of Spez right next to Tiananmen Square

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

seems pretty obvious

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