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Mildly Infuriating

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Teams also doesn't support multiple "work" accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🀷

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[–] [email protected] 219 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Well they are just lying, it works fine with Firefox and has worked fine for years. I live in the EU though. Sucks to be american these days, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

These days? It's sucked to be an American for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

I have the same issue, but I am also in the EU. however, I just used an extension to spoof my user agent and now it works fine. there is some weird behavior sometimes, like when I call someone it doesn't actually ring the other person etc.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 10 months ago

Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~

[–] [email protected] 133 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Its cool how all these companies are allowed to just lie to you about their products functionality.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (12 children)

If you use Firefox, you are a communist; and if you are a communist why would you need the glorious tools of corporate communication? Just make do with rotten turnips as Lenin intended

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This whooshed a lot o' folks.

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[–] jflorez 94 points 10 months ago (26 children)

This is not mildly infuriating this is the free internet being eroded through Google’s control of Chrome

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This team block is so agressive to firefox users that it's literaly hardcoded as if web browser firefox then deny.

You cam override that by changing a parameter in firefox to advertise itself as another we browser. I don't remeber how i did it but, once i had to use firefox and i just changed that stting in order to advertise me to the host as a edge browser. With that changed i could use teams as normal.

Epic drm.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

When I'd search "(location) weather" on Google (e: in Chrome) and I'd get a really nice at a glance forecast right on top. Do the same thing in Firefox and I'd get a whole bunch of weather websites I could go to. The former obviously being a better, more direct experience. I found an extension that fools Google into thinking it's Chrome and all works fine with that.

I'm amazed if this doesn't violate some antitrust regulation

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

This is likely legacy code. Firefox used to have a lot of issues with WebRTC, so practically all video conferencing systems blocked it. Teams probably has some "block Firefox because it doesn't work properly" check that was written 5+ years ago and none of the current developers are even aware of its existence.

Well-coded ones did feature detection instead of checking the user-agent, meaning they automatically started allowing Firefox as soon as it implemented all the required features.

Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn't (or they're so buggy to the point where they're unusable), but that's relatively rare.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn’t (or they’re so buggy to the point where they’re unusable), but that’s relatively rare.

This is tough to implement when the feature is present, but implemented wrong. Or, even worse, when it's implemented right, but the most popular browser implements it wrong and almost everyone else follow suit for compatibility reasons, except for one that takes the stance of following standards. I know safari is notorious for this, think pale moon had those issues, too, and there are still echoes from the past from pre-chrome internet explorer, thank god it's finally dead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Chrome is the new Internet Explorer.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Try changing your user agent to a Chrome one (e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/120.0.0.0 Safari/537.36). Works a treat!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Sidenote:

HTTP user agents have become absolutely bonkers over the years.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like how this guy explains the history of browser user agents and why they have this strange configuration today:

https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Feels like we're back to 2007 again when spoofing firefox user agent to IE would fix websites not working properly, only now we spoof it to chrome instead.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago

Ms teams sucks in a big way

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just change your Useragent, Microsoft is a bunch of dummies and didn't even bother to code it in a way that makes sense as a DRM lmfao.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Teams won't even open on Safari. Must use a chrome-based browser (like... Edge!)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

given the love Teams receives, it not working in [ insert browser ] is definitely a feature

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I used to freelance for a big corp who used MS teams and provided me with separate credentials, while also having my private MS account, that I occasionally use for other corps I worked for.

It was a hell using it that way. I had to run each one in a private Brave window to be able to work on two different accounts.

I know they only use MS teams, bc their infra is all based on MS, and it probably works fine for them internally. But man, this shit needs to be fixed in some way to account for external people, especially the ones who chose their own stack and work simultaneously with others.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried changing your user agent string to Chrome? I know it can sometimes sidestep these types of "errors". It can be changed manually through about:config under general.useragent.override, or there exists plenty of addons to switch it more easily.

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[–] email 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Im sure if you swap user agent to chrome they wouldn't give a fuck

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (7 children)

You can make it work by changing your UserAgent string (there's plugins for that) to some older chrome version to make things work.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Teams also doesn’t support multiple β€œwork” accounts

Firefox lets you have completely separate profiles with separate accounts (URL: about:profiles, it can't be linked to for security reasons) and also an official extension to have another layer of profiles on a per-tab basis (containers).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I feel validated, reading about my daily struggles with Teams.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It really can't. If you spoof the user agent it'll crash immediately after a call starts.

I suspect they use something extra on top of normal WebRTC.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The other issue I have with conferencing apps on browsers is that they request access to your microphone even if it's a one-way audio session (i.e. webinar). It should be set in a way where you can separately join a meeting with audio without allowing access to your microphone.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You can use multiple work accounts in the app, have some clients that have their clients give them accounts to communicate internally with them. Just have to keep switching.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

On a bullshit teams call right now. I'd call it not working a feature πŸ˜„

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I'm in Linux, I had so much problem with FF and Teams that I installed Edge and Teams as a PWA, no more problem with calls and video

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