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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they literally say they wouldn't force re-open sub reddit's? Suprise suprise another lie.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

tbh Im not surprised they would. r/piracy is both niche and wouldnt be worth to remove mods for. Subs like r/aww or r/funny however are main parts of Reddit, and this also applies to massive game subs like r/Minecraft

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (10 children)

You know, when you look at where the subscribers were and what the default subs were, I guess this shouldn't be surprising. There's a reason Lemmy/Kbin already feel more like "old" Reddit, and it's because that was always the "alt" social media users, generally a bit more tech savvy and certainly more open minded to new platforms. At some point Reddit filled up with Facebook and Instagram scrubs and I didn't even notice.

I was definitely a power user of Reddit, but I'm not sure I was even subscribed to a single default sub. Whoever was hitting up Reddit for r/aww and r/funny was probably never going to take a principled stand over API debates and the centralization and profit chasing administrative choices.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't think they'd reopen /r/piracy. They'd take it as a win.

It's going to be banned for being "unmoderated" sometime soon, calling it now.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Embarassing, here's to hoping that lemmy takes off

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It seems to be.

Make sure to join Kbin communities through Lemmy too!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

how do we find kbin communities from lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Well, you really have to go there and then enter it in the search field of your instance. People keep saying its !community@server but for me that does not work. The actual link did however.
So instead of looking for [email protected], I look for https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy and it works.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mods of the Apple subreddit framed it as if they were making some great sacrifice by choosing to reopen the subreddit and remain in control. Obviously, the mods that are claiming this are full of shit, it's more about the authority than it is giving a shit about a subreddit.

[–] Ginkko117 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, if you think about it, Apple is a good example of corporate greed and ignorance to its users. They will sell some nonsense accessory for $1k, call it a nice name and Apple fans would be happy to buy it. So, it's surprising that this subreddit even took part in blackout at all.

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[–] Difficult_Bit_1339 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"The blackout didn't affect us at all."

"If you don't unblackout we're going to start removing moderators and taking over subreddits."

I think, maybe, the blackout hurt them. If it goes on for longer then ad buyers will shift their money to other platforms.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Replacing the moderation teams of 5,000 subs should go really well. Right?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's a risk that disgruntled ex-redditors will collectively vote for the most terrible people they can find for mods, just to harm reddit and drive people here. That would be truly sad to see. Truly sad.

Edit: other appalling things I hope we don't see are people going to reddit in down times only to upvote bad comments and posts, and downvote the good ones.

The very last thing we would want to see is the mods of large subs switching between private and public mode too often, because that apparently has to change permissions on all the posts in the sub, and was why reddit had downtime when they all went dark. They may even have the wild and outrageous idea to briefly turn off private simultaneously, only to go back private as a form of malicious compliance with Huffman's warnings.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

re: the second part, that's still engagement and Reddit doesn't care so long as the metrics are looking good. You're better off not interacting

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Dude, like no person with self worth will apply to being a mod at reddit after such a move. It will be a really good social experiment, some social science student will make a decent thesis out of it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When are we starting to call it deddit?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

delete the content, kill the sub, and brigade it to death if reddit tries to resurrect it

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Man, I just checked the thread on /r/technology to see what people were saying. Everyone is shit talking mods - it's a complete sea change since last time I was on. Weird.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone who was pro-blackout is here now.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leaving nothing but trolls, as expected. Reddit is already dead.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was a bit stunned reading the comments on that post. They weren't just expressing displeasure with the blackout, it was more like "spez is 100% correct to kill 3rd party apps and mods are bad people". My first thought was trolls/astroturfing, but maybe the rules of the game just change that quickly when an addict isn't getting their fix.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

prob cause everyone who agrees with the black out has left

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People love to complain, but hate doing anything about it. Moving to lemmy is a bit of work, not much, but enough to deter a lot of idiots. I compare moving to anything Fediverse with moving to Linux. People will always complain about Windows doing this, Windows doing that. So stop using it coward!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's not forget reddit has a history of using bots to create the impression that the site is more active than it is. I don't think it's at all unlikely that that's going on here.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

FWIW, I saw a decent amount of discontent directed at the blackout in a lot of the subs I frequented.

Some were confused by the mods and had no idea the 3rd apps were a thing. Some were ra-ra capitalism crowd mad that people are protesting the other site's gawd-given right to price gouge. Some were mad the blackouts didn't go far enough...

I think the takeaway is that you can't please everyone.

This ain't my first go as a social media refugee. I get they want to pull a Kevin Rose and cash out. Their board's been fucking with everything I used their site for and how I used their site. As far as I'm concerned, they can get farked.

IMO, the only thing preventing a mass exodus is platform mature enough to capitalize on their fuck-ups.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would say it's surprising but r/technology has been apathetic to the blackout, and that's being generous. At the same time, it shouldn't be surprising considering its top mod is a reddit admin.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Replacing mods is a fun idea. But where do you get replacement mods from? Already before the whole debacle most subreddits had more or less intrusive "We are looking for new mods" statements all around their sub. One sub I'm in has a bot that comments on every post that they are urgently looking for mods.

And that was before Reddit started a war with the mods.

Are they going to let ChatGPT work as a mod?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

This was bound to happen. On the eve of their IPO, they need to show that the site is running normally and that it shows promise to be profitable.

Now I'm not so sure whoever they pick to be more will be up for the task considering that they have gimped mod tools.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

For those who still have a reddit account, I took the liberty to remind u/spez that he, too, wasn't democratically elected, so I created a referendum post on whether he should remain in his position as a CEO. Maybe give this an upvote if you want to.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ideasfortheadmins/comments/14av4oh/call_a_referendum_on_mr_huffman_as_the_ceo_of/

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvoted, but it won't work.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Of course it won't. But it would help to colour him as the hypocrite he is.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Reddit

If they did this normally instead of the garbage sub request system then honestly their site might be a little fucking better, but doing it just now is blatant and gross

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And I'm sure these new moderators would do just as good of a job as the old passionate ones! /s

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We seem to be getting to them. Let them hire their mods, quality will go down, and we'll still be here :)

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, moderating a large sub isn't as shake-and-bake as the admins seem to think. They might "hire" scabs, but the scabs are probably going to slack off pretty hard and might not even understand the tools and procedures that can make it effective but not stifling to content.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

btw sorry if this post is pretty ugly. First post I actually made to Lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whelp, I finally made my account, first post! Just need more popcorn! Sadly this move seemed inevitable.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Wow, they really doubling down on digging their own graves.

Glad to see this community thriving over here tho ;)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

If I was disney/apple/amazon/whatever big corp now it would be the time to put my own people in charge of popular subreddits and astroturf my way through hell

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"NO WE WON'T PAY YOU A FUCKING CENT, NOW DO WHAT WE TELL YOU AND SHUT THE FUCK UP"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Horrible move but it looks like a lot of subs are going to roll over and take it - I guess this was always the plan and that reddit figures its better to move quickly to prevent protests taking hold.

Hoping more will break away and move here instead but not expecting a mass exodus.

I closed my twitter last year because Elon is a scumbag, I'll happily do the same on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Surprised Pikachu face

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