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    [–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Even with good old wine, the friend is still not wrong

    [–] 0x4E4F 20 points 10 months ago

    Unfortunately, yes...

    [–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Your average Wine enjoyer:

    Wine works great, blurp...

    [–] 0x4E4F 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    My first Linux install, I downloaded some tutorial from somewhere, can't remember where (maybe someone on IRC shared it 🤔... IDK, I can't remember), and this is litelarly what it said 😂.

    You have to be prepared when installing Linux. Take a week or two off work or school and make sure you have the following things at your disposal.

    • Find as many bootable floppy's and as many different dostro CDs as possible. Why? The boot floppy from Debian might work with Suse, but not the Debian CD.

    • Make sure you have at least two CD drives and floppy drives at your disposal. The more, the better. Why? You'll probably burn out the first ones while trying to figure out which boot floppy goes with which distro.

    • Have coffee at your disposal all the time. You're at the bottom of the pot? Pour that in your mug and put a new one on the kettle.

    • Stock up on as many different kinds of alcohol you can find, preferably strong stuff. Trust me, you'll need it.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Typical of many online tutorials, full of typos and errors.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

    Lmao.. it hurts because it’s true!! Debug these windows stack traces in Linux, here you go!! Exception happened at 0xEBFCEBFCBEBXBDBBWBXBENEKWWLLWLFFMLW

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    How I learnt there are normal dot net runtime and Desktop runtime.

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    I hate comments that are like “oh if only Linux could run Whatever” etc. You can have more than one computer (or partition), and you can have more than one OS. Windows isn’t going to divorce you if you spend time with Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    No, but it sure is annoying having to switch in the middle of doing something especially when you're working. (Also, there's that pesky thing that happened to me as well where windows doesn't play nice with the Linux boot partition and fucks it up) So there's always going to be a main os. If you're fortunate enough you can use an old laptop for windows. Or, if your computer is powerful enough run an windows VM. For me, Gnome Boxes offered a really easy to use experience of running windows. It worked out of the box, no special tweaks.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You can use Linux and Windows at the same time with WSL. Works extremely well for people who develop Linux but also need Windows stuff.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Hmm, WSL has created more issues for me than I’d cared for. I don’t think it’s an ideal solution.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    This is not wine... Powerade at best 🤔

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Denuvo drm: allow me to introduce myself

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly DRM is bad and should be rejected. That means no Spotify, Netflix or Denuvo.

    [–] 0x4E4F 11 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Hell, I'm down with that, I don't use any of that.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    It should be circumvented, not rejected.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Just find a build with it ripped out / worked around it and play offline?

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I would like MS Office to run in Linux... and not have to vomit even more money to Crossover to get it to work.

    And when you play the "LibreOffice" card, I play the "Word doc with custom layout tables" trap card!

    [–] 0x4E4F 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Which version? 2007 runs just fine. 2010 requres some custom libs, but there are tutorials (there is also a patch that makes it an endless free trial). 2013 is not a finished product IMO, so I haven't used it all or tried in Wine. 2016... yeah, that's a PITA to get working. One thing I can suggest is go with the MSVC++ installer from this link and go from there. You might also need x64dbg, but I seriously doubt it.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    MS Word past 2007 is not MS Word anymore. Microsoft fucked up the menu and the toolbar intentionally, to lock new users into their new fancy user interface with menus-as-buttons. LibreOffice is more MS Word from the usability standpoint than the MS Word 2016. Like, you can select Format - Paragraph and edit your paragraph formatting, all in one dialog, and not search for the right icon out of a hundred pictograms spread evenly over ten dynamic toolbars.

    [–] 0x4E4F 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I completely agree, I like LibreOffice way more than MS Office. It's basically got the pre 2007 look and feel, and that is what I like and what I'm used to.

    I just happen to work on getting MS Office working on Wine for a small local company and know a thing or two about getting it working in Wine.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    What's "custom layout tables"? Anyway, I now only play https://typst.app card, because I don't use LO Writer anymore, only LO Calc for some stuff. Typst has a ton of scripting capability and granular customization, so it will probably beat your "custom layout tables" by a ~~mile~~ kilometer!

    Typst is the future for document creation. Mark my words.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    You based chad. Typst is absolutely awesome. It made me ditch Libreoffice and LaTeX at the same time. Haven't looked back since then.

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    [–] MaliciousKebab 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Adobe products: Hello there!

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    There are actually only two kinds of windows apps that don't run on Linux: Those made not to run on Linux on purpose, and those that were made by so bad programmers that you'll be amazed how fast the "fixme" messages scroll in the terminal window from which you started wine. I'm working with one of the latter, and I'm happy that I just finished the last project with it. This piece of software is plain shit. And it looks like they don't intend to fix their shit.

    [–] 0x4E4F 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's not exactly on purpose, but Wine is still missing a lot of hardware level translation, like native SATA for example, so... 🤷.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    If AutoCAD could run on Linux I'd change in a heartbeat

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Not sure if you're going to like the route they'll be taking.

    https://www.infoq.com/presentations/autocad-webassembly

    I bet AutoCAD will collapse either way if Microsoft decided to purge legacy components from the OS. Feel like the codebase hasn't changed since the early days and it probably depends on some APIs that have been there since Windows ME.

    [–] 0x4E4F 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I bet AutoCAD will collapse either way if Microsoft decided to purge legacy components from the OS.

    I've been saying this for years. Their code base is ancient, it's just makeup on a granma.

    The trouble is, I think MS saw through this. Why do you think backwards compatibility suddenly got so good with Win8/8.1/10, while it really sucked with 7 (blue screens all over, especially with drivers from XP). Hell, I've installed XP graphics drivers on Win10 x86 LTSC 2019 and everything was hunky dory. Sure, no Nvidia control panel (it just errors out when you try to rum it), but hey, at least they work. Same with software, CorelDRAW 12 was a PITA to get working properly on Win7. On 10, it works out of the box.

    I think they were aware that their mobile OS escapades might flop, so they focused on getting better backwards compatibility. If this thing fires back (which it did), stick to your guns, you still are no.1 in the CAD software market.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    To be fair AutoCAD couldn’t be stable if AutoDesk built their own custom OS. It’s such hot garbage.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    AutoCAD seems to be it's own worst enemy.

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    Oh holy shit you're right! Badlands Booker! Total legend. I actually met him at an eating contest way back. Seemed like a really cool guy.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    Better not be because I can't see an inch of sugar building up at the bottom so it wasn't made correctly.

    [–] Murdoc 4 points 10 months ago

    I was thinking Hawaiian Punch. (I think we may have found a new versioning theme)

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Windows can’t run Linux apps (wsl is Linux running Linux apps)

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Both Linux and Windows can't run macOS apps.

    [–] Lucidlethargy 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, enjoy that... I've tried it enough times to find the process cumbersome and full of troubleshooting. In the right state of mind I enjoy that, but I could never straight up ditch windows as someone who games often. Sometimes you just want to download a new game and play it.

    Linux will get there, if things keep going that direction. It's not there yet, though.

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