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If anyone was still taking them seriously, they sure as hell aren't now.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think my favorite was the winner of the 2023 Labor of Love award: Red Dead Redemption 2, which hasn't had a major content update since 2022.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I finally played through the RDR2 campaign a few months ago. The game is kinda a masterpiece and I wanted to vote for it when I saw it as an option. Then I remembered it came out 5 years ago and as far as I've heard from friends there's nothing special about the online play.

Bit confused as to how it was even a candidate for the award lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It became a candidate because nominations (and the votes) are all community based. Steam has the final say, but yeah, it's the users who are driving this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it seems that at least two awards this year are the results of doing it for lulz :/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I mean, I don't think that's entirely a bad thing. At least it's not gushing grannies mkII...

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago (6 children)

RDR2 took labor of love. I was hoping for DRG.

Hogwarts got an award (Best on Steam Deck). Hogwartz is not only politically odious but is just an open world with Potterverse assets, and takes place mostly in the swamp anyway.

Starfield got most innovative despite having the usual buggy-plus-banal that is the typical Bethesda formula. WTF?

So, okay, I'm a snob. And I'm disappointed with the Steam community.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How did rdr2 get labor of love? R* abandoned it. There was no new content for 3 years

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I believe that was the point. Starfield and RDR2 winning awards were ironic AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

combination of irony votes and just being the most recognizable names on their lists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, this one bothers me WAY more than Starfield. Sure, SF might not actually be a GOTY candidate, but the shipbuilding alone really is innovative. RDR2 was my JAM for a few years, but Rock$tar abandoned it like a red-headed stepchild!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Innovative? Holy shit. It's the most rehashed game of this year. It's pretty much just FO4 in space with a ship builder and more load screens and procedurally generated planets.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I 100% completed hogwarts and loved the experience as a Harry Potter (not Rowling) fan. Gonna let it cook a bit and then come back when some more content comes out as it was a great chill game to play after work.

Also absolutely agree that DRG deserved labor of love. ROCK AND STONE!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

God I miss the days when liking a work of art wasn't automatically considered an endorsement of the person making it, even less so when the person in question is literally just the rights holder and had nothing to do with the product itself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I get this, but when you're talking about Rowling's work (and some of the others) it becomes an issue for people of looking back at their work and going "oh, their views were blatantly spelled out here the entire time, I was just too young to notice it." Plus, Rowling specifically said, in no uncertain terms, that every time somebody buys her stuff, she takes it as an endorsement of her beliefs and uses part of that money to fund groups that align with her beliefs.

With Hogwarts Legacy though, it wasn't just the source material and Rowling, but also a case of some of the people working on the game who were putting stuff in that when looked at in context just made it more and more of a "okay, once or twice is a coincidence...but we're up to 4 and I keep finding more" situation.

There was the fact that the lead game designer stepped down partway through the project. Why did he step down? Because it came out that he ran a right-wing extremist YouTube channel (that's still up to this day afaik) with white supremacist views on full display. So he decided to step down to avoid the controversy it was starting to bring to the development of the game. But, when he stepped down, he made a statement about "feeling like he was among like-minded people on the team."

So with that statement in mind, when the game came out, people began noticing...odd references in the game's lore. Stuff like a goblin war horn lore object you can pick up that's described as being used for battle and to "annoy wizards", and has apparently been stuffed full of gorgonzola cheese. Well, people noticed that this horn looked oddly similar to a traditional Jewish horn used for battles and some religious ceremonies. Also, why gorgonzola? Apparently it's one of the few non-kosher cheeses. So kinda weird, but could just be a coincidence, right? It was then that people noticed that there were references to other goblin rebellions that were put down by wizards with specific dates, and that these dates matched fairly well with several attempted genocides of Jews in medieval Europe. I think there were a few other items that referenced Jews as well in some capacity, but that's all the stuff I can remember off the top of my head.

So even ignoring Rowling writing goblins as a Jewish stereotype (which is fairly easy because it seems like she just isn't that creative when it comes to avoiding stereotypes. The black kid in the books is named Shacklebolt. The 14 year old Irish kid is obsessed with whiskey and explosives. How more on the nose can you get?), once you factor in the white supremacist in charge who referenced sharing similar views with other members of the dev team, and then you start seeing multiple references to Jews and events surrounding Jews in medieval European history (specifically attempted genocides), it goes from coincidence to red flags pretty quickly.

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[–] ObsidianNebula 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some people have harder times separating an author from their work. In this particular case, while it is true that Rowling likely did not have much to do with the actual product, it also doesn't help that she makes money off the game and donates said money to people and organizations that people disagree with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's frankly no correlation between a single donor's activity and societal changes in either direction on any one issue.

The UK has a huge TERF presence because it's culturally essentialist on a fundamental level on all aspects of society.

It's a country that enshrines hereditary peerage into law to this day, the concept of birthright and essential "stock" of an individual are central to their culture and that extends to gender.

Rowling can't make it worse or better just by donating, she's a symptom, not a cause.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The starfield and rdr2 ones are spite votes, obviously. Starfield is sitting at mostly negative for being shallow and repetitive and rdr2 was abandoned.

They're meme votes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Boaty McBoatface.

I appreciate this hypotheses so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'll be honest, it's either this or I'll jump off a roof tomorrow, cause a world where people earnestly think starfield is innovative is not a world compatible with my life.

[–] ObsidianNebula 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been voting for DRG for years now and am hoping it wins at some point. Great game that still gets sizable updates.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's a classic Boaty McBoatface situation. I fully expect at least one hentai game to win next year. 2024 being the US election year, trolls will have 12 months to practice.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

boaty mcboatface was actually funny though. Internet polls being bad ideas isn't funny anymore

[–] fibojoly 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was surprised i could only nominate one of my nsfw games. Apparently it was only games from last year that were eligible? But then how did RDR2 get nominated? So confusing. All I know is I would have absolutely nominated some of my nsfw games, had I been able.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Labour of Love is the only exception of the 2023 release rule, where older, still updated games should win.

How did Rdr2 and gta 5 win when they are the most milked r* games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Valve should stop giving incentives for voting in the awards, it just leads to people voting for crap they know nothing about.

It won't solve the entire issue but at least it'd be a start.

[–] Patches 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It literally just needs a N/A, or Undecided button.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Even if you didn't play any game that qualifies for a category it just tells you to vote from a selection of games you've never heard of.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most innovative game of the year.

That is honestly hilarious

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not really funny though. Some group got their lulz, but that came at the cost of some actually deserving game not getting extra exposure it probably needed. It's not a victimless crime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I completely forgot that it was a user voted award. (Never a good idea imho) tbh I genuinely forgot all about said awards till this post

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

people just choose what they recognize. also theres no option to skip an award for a category

[–] Patches 24 points 7 months ago

You can just no answer but then you don't get the free gacha prize, and let me tell you - people love free shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

There is an option to skip....people just dont use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Odd, I couldn't find it and wanted to skip

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You mean by not voting in a category and still getting the chat emoji? Elaborate please.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just sad it wasn't Golum

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

That would have been great. The walking dead game too of Rick eating multiple shotgun blasts to his face deserved an award too.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

I feel bad for Shadows of Doubt, the innovation award was the only one it was a candidate for and it got blocked by people poking fun at space Skyrim.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The horny robot game getting a style award over any of the amazing games that came out this year just crushes me.

Retrofuturism + consenticles fridge and dommy mummy robots beats most things to the sort of sad fucks that play games I guess?

I need a new hobby, unfortunately I too am a sad fuck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Play Disco Elysium. It's a game for sad fucks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I could never imagine being crushed by the results of a poll. Good luck to you

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for introducing the word "consenticles" to me.

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