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I really can't stand their skewed priorities in contrast to the state of Firefox.

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[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Skewed priorities like trying to make sure that Firefox continues to exist even with the massive amount of competition in the browser space and everything being taken over by chromium. Yeah. Definitely skewed priorities.

[–] newproph 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you ratiod the shit outta OP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Huh. First time for everything. I don’t think I’ve ever done that before lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mozilla laid off the entire Servo team (new browser engine built with rust) in 2020 and shifted more focus to products and services other than Firefox (like their VPN, Pocket, etc.) - this is public knowledge, they literally published the email that was sent to employees that day (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Message-to-Employees-Change-in-Difficult-Times.pdf ).

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 year ago (1 children)

naah, I like mozilla while they aren't perfect but they are on our side in my opinion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

covert monopoly with g**gle

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They really just can't get a break. When they take money from Google they get attacked. When they try to create other revenue streams (pocket, vpn, etc.) they get attacked. I don't think you want the browser to be a paid for subscription product and the donations aren't enough to reliably cover browser development.

Maintaining and keeping secure a large standards compliant browser is decidedly expensive. And most of the expenses are not one off they are ongoing.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

factually incorrect, they're just paid to have them as the default search engine and they need that money to maintain the browser

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

also for "see we're not a monopoly, firefox exists!"

which is no fault of firefox

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

they get paid billions of dollars and all you have to do is switch default search engines win win if you really hate it DONATE TO MOZILLA

[–] jsh 12 points 1 year ago

I don't see you helping keep the lights on.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

>goes online

>shitposts

>refuses to elaborate further

>leaves

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Listen, I love what Mozilla stands for, or at least what they claim to stand for. But every time they've been asked to choose between their principles and money, they've chosen money. On the one hand, I kind of don't blame them -- after all, if I was a scrappy broke nonprofit singlehandedly maintaining one of the most complex and fast-moving pieces of software mankind has ever devised, I'd probably take money wherever I could get it too -- but on the other, paying lip service to caring about your users' privacy isn't a good look

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 year ago

Twenty years of constant grinding mistreatment of a once-enthusiastic userbase.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So what's up with moizlla?

Edit: of course I meant Mozilla. The company behind Firefox and Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what’s up with moizlla?

[–] mindbleach 18 points 1 year ago

Firefox is wonderful. Mozilla is a fucking mess.

I have been using this browser primarily or exclusively since before it was called Firefox. I can't tell you the earliest version I still have an installer for, because neither Wine nor Windows will run it. It remains the best option - by a long shot - but not because it's getting any better.

The time to burn the bird again was a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Chakravanti 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] aBundleOfFerrets 1 points 11 months ago

The firefox derivative?

[–] Chakravanti 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. Much stronger/safer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no reason why a "privacy focused browser" should have clickbate news stories on their front page.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

You can easily remove them. Mozilla isn't a for profit company, but they need to have money to run somehow. Dunno if you've seen Chrome lately but it's 1000x worse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Am i missing something?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's not like it used to be. Even thunderbird has had tons of great work put into it. If you're ever sick of using weird stuff like palemoon you should see for yourself. All the extensions I liked are back.