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Hyperloop One is reportedly shutting down::One of the longest-running hyperloop startups is reportedly shutting its doors. Hyperloop One, once backed by Richard Branson's Virgin Group, will cease

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[-] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago

As a Californian, the state should sue for damages and use the funds for high speed rail. The entire hype around this stupid tech was to torpedo high speed rail in the state so Musk could sell more cars. I get that this is Branson's spinoff, but the tech isn't viable and all the investor hype around it was just a smokescreen for public policy control and that HAS to result in some sort of reparations, it's basically fraud in my opinion. The assets should be sold off and put towards public transit.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Misleading shareholders

[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

The Hyperloop scam to kill high speed rail implementation:

https://lovetransit.substack.com/p/the-hyperloop-is-a-scam-by-elon-musk

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Dubai port operator DP World wound up with majority control of the startup, and pivoted its focus to cargo in early 2022, cutting half the staff at the time and dropping the Virgin moniker.

It makes sense that they'd drop the name Virgin after DP world took over.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Missed opportunity, really. Add some collaboration with the British Broadcasting Company and you have "Virgin DP with BBC". Smut seo heaven!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

DP World will wind up with Hyperloop One’s intellectual property, Bloomberg reports, while the rest of its hard assets — including a test track outside Las Vegas and other machinery — will be sold off.

Wonder how much of the value (if any) was in the IP, which will be solely owned by a company mainly focused on maritime trade.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Hyperloop One, once backed by Richard Branson’s Virgin Group, will cease operations on December 31 according to Bloomberg News.

It’s the latest stumble in the tech industry’s attempt to bring life to an idea Elon Musk first put forth in a white paper in 2013.

The original pitch for the hyperloop sounds like a zero interest rate fever dream: build lengthy vacuum-sealed tubes for shipping people and goods at super-high speeds.

But when Branson criticized Saudi Arabia following the killing of Jamal Khashoggi in 2018, the Kingdom pulled a planned project with the startup, and the billionaire stepped down as chairman.

Dubai port operator DP World wound up with majority control of the startup, and pivoted its focus to cargo in early 2022, cutting half the staff at the time and dropping the Virgin moniker.

DP World will wind up with Hyperloop One’s intellectual property, Bloomberg reports, while the rest of its hard assets — including a test track outside Las Vegas and other machinery — will be sold off.


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[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

To everyone implying that Elon leveraged the concept of hyperloop to kill high speed rail in California:

California killed high speed rail in California. The project is like 3x over budget with no real end in sight. If Elon dedicated his entire net worth in 2013 to the project it would still be over budget.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Hsr isn't dead, it's still being actively built, employing thousands of people, still has broad public support and just got a shit ton of funding from the feds. It's over budget and delayed yes but so was the original shinkansen because bootstrapping that kind of project and industrial knowledge is hard.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I would absolutely love for this to be true, but I don't really have faith in a project that has had so many issues. I think there will end up being more cost overruns, more finger pointing, and more failures. I half expect Brightline to both start and finish their LA to Vegas rail before this project comes to its final conclusion.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oh definitely, I don't see it getting to SF before the bright line opens and I don't see it getting to la in the next decade. But the bright line is using tried and tested technology and methods, while hsr is building from scratch.

It'll take a long time but it will eventually get done, because there is still a will, not a strong one, to get it done. Most Californians recognize the immense value it will bring and will keep pushing for it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh definitely, I don't see it getting to SF before the bright line opens and I don't see it getting to la in the next decade. But the bright line is using more tried and tested technology and methods in a significantly less populated area on an established corridor, while hsr is building from scratch through the heartland of California.

It'll take a long time but it will eventually get done, because there is still a will, not a strong one, to get it done. Most Californians recognize the immense value it will bring and will keep pushing for it.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Elon said himself that he did it to kill HSR lmao

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Okay but Elon also makes crazy grandiose statements on a daily basis.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, he legitimately didn't want that specific HSR plan to happen and wanted to get it stopped.

He thought it was going to be to expensive, slow and already be outdated by the time it was finally built.

There are already faster trains being built today and he wanted them to do something better.

Most people turn that into he is 100% against high speed rail and make it a conspiracy about wanting to sell more cars.

We won't ever know the truth.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

He did it to kill that specific plan.

He wanted something better.

You can either take him at his word, or fall into the conspiracy camp of selling more cars, but thats the 2 options you get.

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