These women deserve to be paid as their lives were entirely upended by his words and will almost certainly never be the same again. But unfortunately, the verdict is almost entirely symbolic as Giuliani is considered by virtually everyone to be broke. They'll have a long line of people to stand behind who are all clawing for whatever scraps he's got left.
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Giuliani is considered by virtually everyone to be broke.
Not the NY court system. The courts are assuming he's hiding money & told the jurors to ignore his claims of insolvency.
With any luck, he's going die under a bridge somewhere with a bottle of Mad Dog in hand.
Bankrupt != broke. He still has a lot of assets, multiple properties IIRC.
You recall correctly. Copy/paste from something I posted in another thread.
Based on this link from earlier this years he has, or had, a net worth of around $80 million. He has an apartment currently listed for sale at around $6 million. He also owns another 12 apartments in NY, 2 mansions in TX, 2 penthouses in Manhattan, and 950 acres of Farmland in Ohio.
Yeah but even if he's forced to sell off his assets, which is extremely likely, you're still talking years of red tape and having a deathmatch with his many other creditors before they'd actually see any of that money, if ever. And that's assuming it's all straightforward. If he goes full Alex Jones and intentionally tries to gum up the works, god knows how long it'll drag out for.
Ensuring his later years are filled with endless stressful legal battles as he tries to hold on to his last possessions also gives me schadenfreude, especially if he will have to pay it anyway.
I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, but wish there were a way that could be done while these two women also get paid.
It'd be funnier if he flees to Russia only to be photographed fighting on the front lines in Ukraine. Shovel in one hand, colostomy bag in the other.
Only if that shovel is used to dig his own grave.
The fact that Moss & Bridge's lawyers want to get paid will speed that process up quite a bit.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The decision on Friday comes at the end of a week-long federal civil trial in Washington, D.C., where an eight-person jury heard from the workers — Wandrea "Shaye" Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman — about how 2020 election conspiracies spread by Giuliani and former President Donald Trump turned their lives upside down.
Jurors heard numerous violent and racist voicemails the women received, after Giuliani used his massive platform as a campaign attorney for Trump to spread lies about their actions as election workers in Georgia.
Speaking outside the court Friday after the verdict, Freeman said that money won't bring back her past life or her name.
It's not the only legal trouble for Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor and two-term New York City mayor, related to his efforts to subvert Georgia's 2020 election.
I hope the federal government hangs you and your daughter from the Capitol dome," said one message Freeman received at the time.
"Mr. Sibley has a hard job," said Judge Howell at one point, after it came out that Giuliani had continued to lie about the women while talking to reporters on the courthouse steps earlier in the week.
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