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[–] Eagle0600@yiffit.net 21 points 1 year ago

If your PC has the ability to turn into a fly, then the game has deliberately given them some amazing stealth and scouting capabilities. I say this is working as intended.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are flies beasts in 5e?

I know that wouldn't fly in 3e.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a honeybee statblock in Wilds Beyond the Witchlight. Also a regular spider in the Monster Manual, which could work just as well. Apparently the average spider in the Forgotten Realms is poisonous enough to have a 15% chance of immediately killing an average commoner with a single bite

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the Forgotten Realms is safer than Australia, gotcha

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, more dangerous. People rarely die of spider bite down here in Australia. Been like 8 deaths to the world's most deadly spider over recorded history. Sure, that number is probably artificially low cos back in the old days some bites would've just been written off as a heart attack etc, but it's still surprisingly low compared to say deaths by cow etc.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

To be fair, nobody is trying to milk the spiders

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This sounds like Australian spider propaganda

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck 'clever', this is brilliant.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve done this on my Druid but with 3 portable holes..and the entire party.

[–] teft@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Strategically placed near every door, window, sewer pipe, and vent the DM put an Antimagic Field device.

I especially like to imagine a druid coming in through the sewer as a rat and having his robes get soaked in poo when he gets popped out of wild shape.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strategically placed near every door, window, sewer pipe, and vent the DM put an Antimagic Field device.

I once played with someone who argued that Diplomacy would never be usable on any important person because, since it requires 1 minute of uninterrupted conversation to use, everyone who is important enough would have a jester or aid or someone they'd hire specifically to interrupt every conversation they were involved in every 9 rounds. Absolutely infuriating person to play with. This anecdote is completely unrelated to this post, but your suggestion just made me remember it again, and it irritated me all over again.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

That could make for a fun gimmick(tie it to a roll behind the scenes) for a session, but beyond that, fuck no. Not only would it be an absolute drag timing out each conversation, eventually the party will start working out ways to get around it, be it a graceful zone of silence to the more likely "Gut the loudmouth and use the corpse as a puppet".

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anyone want their diplomacy interrupted, even as the one being affected? It's not like diplomacy is some evil spell. A successful diplomacy check means you were able to have small talk, relate, and do all the normal things strangers do to put each other at ease. You don't "defend" against diplomacy!

Imagine trying to agree on a treaty with some jester interrupting every 54 seconds...

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They never really went into detail, their whole argument was that if you wanted to use Diplomacy, you did so by default at a -10 penalty (for doing it 'rushed'), or it would guaranteed fail, for the above reason. :(

[–] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why a -10? That seems arbitrary in 5e that almost does nothing with incremental modifiers.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was pre-5e; we were playing 3.5e, where that's actually an official thing you can do:

Changing others’ attitudes with Diplomacy generally takes at least 1 full minute (10 consecutive full-round actions). In some situations, this time requirement may greatly increase. A rushed Diplomacy check can be made as a full-round action, but you take a -10 penalty on the check.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they were arguing:

  1. the NPC's in the world are aware of the D&D rules their world operates in, and as such
  2. Diplomacy is impossible unless you do it in 6 seconds.
[–] Tolookah@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

"come with me if you want to live" ~a successful diplomat, or something.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly that. I wish I was kidding.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'll be damned, I wouldn't have thought wild shape was magic but indeed it is.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Antimagic field is an eighth level spell with one hour concentration duration; an item that has it on 24 hours a day would easily be a legendary item. People underestimate how powerful a spell it is and suggest spamming it everywhere. Having it on every door, window, sewer pipe, and vent would be massive overkill just to spite wildshape.

[–] teft@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if I were a king in Faerun I would spend my money like that. Fuck them druids.

[–] gerusz@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hiring monodrones is usually cheaper. They are the simplest Modrons, and they would be perfectly willing to work for a Lawful king (the evil-good axis doesn't come into play) because it increases the amount of order in the multiverse. But every modron has Truesight.

Hell, maybe hire a whole team of modrons. Monodrones to stand watch at all ingresses, with orders of "raise an alarm if you see any disguised shapeshifter enter through that window / door / arrowslit / whatever", and duodrones with orders of "patrol the castle and raise an alarm if you see any disguised shapeshifter".

[–] jounniy@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

Thats brilliant.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Always look a gift horse in the mouth