Asklemmy

Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn't just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like... Idk "VidHub"? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.

YouTube won't die anytime soon because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive if you're not a big company. So there's no good alternatives. PeerTube Instances couldn't handle the massive data that YouTube can

@IsThisLemmyOpen Reddit is not dead, yet.

Reddit isnt dead yet, and it will be much harder for youtube to die. Kinda hard to make creators move when its their job, and without them moving, there is no chance of any progress occuring.

Right now, the best thing they can do is host their content on youtube AND other alternatives like Odyssey. This lets them make the same money they always had, but also gives people an option to watch it somewhere else. Unfortuately, your average youtuber is completely clueless about this option and so you mainly only see tech people doing it with only a few exceptions here and there.

Reddit is far from dead. Most of the subs I care about are back.

I don't think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren't many good alternatives?

It's because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It's why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.

I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can't imagine a world where I'd need to pay a subscription to use them.

You got PeerTube but the amount of content is obviously inferior.

You also got Odysee which is based on the LBRY network.

Reddit is dead?

i think youtube is doing much better than reddit

Not sooner as someone figuring out a way for cheaper video hosting. I don't think youtube is even profitable.

Youtube is one of the things that less techie people think of when it comes to internet videos. It’s quite mainstream and will stay for long.

No one has solved a way to make hosting massive amounts of videos cheap, and this is unlikely to happen anytime soon due to the large amount of data storage and bandwidth required.

So no, even if YouTube somehow becomes even more tyrannical than it is it’s unlikely we’ll ever see it decentralized and federated the way Lemmy is in a usable way anytime soon.

Peer Tube could take off by us uploading to it and linking it from Lemmy

Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don't think we'll ever see a replacement.

Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There's a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.

Never, the big name content creators will never boycott YouTube like Reddit mods for large subs did because YouTube pays them and no one takes alternatives seriously enough to even just mirror their content on an alternative. I've been trying to support YouTube alternatives as much as I can but I'm only one person, I'd be naive to think that I alone could make a difference.

It depends on how long people will desire long form video content. Maybe 15 years?

It will be very hard to replace YouTube. Google barely making money from it, if any. The storage you need to host so many videos (some 4k) for free is insane.

There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.

One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.

YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.

It's unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.

Reddit is dead?

Maybe when technology gets to a certain point all that data storage will be a lot cheaper. Atm the best alternative I have seen is Dailymotion but they are nowhere near the scale of youtube.

Odysee and Rumble are actually really solid alternatives to YouTube. They're just missing the content. No, they're not as good as YouTube, but they're good enough.

Why Youtube in particular? Did they unfurl some nasty change like reddit?

Youtube'll probably last for a while, but it feels like it's getting shittier each year. Search is terrible now, and then there are those in-video cards you can't get rid of, even though there's a checkbox in the settings (at least on Browsers) to get rid of them, they don't actually go away unless you use an adblocker.

Plus, the algorithm is stupid, and when you search there's no common sense filters like don't show things I downvoted, or don't show things I've already watched today. At the very least, Youtube needs some serious competition for it to shape up and stop doing dumb things that annoy everyone.

I hate that Tiktok's run by the Chinese government to spy on people of interest (like journalists), but it's giving Youtube some much needed competition otherwise.

Platform deaths will be very slow, very long, and very painful.

We all hoped Twitter will have one major and spectacular screw up, which will end the platform. It didn't. Instead Elon started to sell the previous verification to anyone with at least $8 to spare, made the API a paid feature, made it so his yes men will be pushed up to the top, dismantled the moderation team and system, and started to promote far-right conspiracy theories. Sometimes certain features stop working.

I guess if reddit doesn't start to screw up even more, they can even survive. Maybe even recover. But if they're continuing to learn the wrong things from the Twitter fiasco, they'll go downhill, make more and more people to leave, until the site is mostly abandoned. The opsec specialists already left twitter, LGBTQ people leaving it slowly, and even Japanese artists are now pulling double duty with Mastodon. I'll try to promote the fediverse in my country too, as who knows when will Elon decide to silence the Hungarian opposition, and Hungarian Facebook already has issues with the report system, seemingly on purpose.